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Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

African American means that you are a descendant of American slaves.  They're all black but not African-American [if they were born in America].  I may identify as AA simply bc American society does not really care about the differences of culture w/in the black community.  Whereas white people can be Irish, Italian, Jewish, English, German, etc.

I never knew all that was implied by that term. I have my doubts but okay. 


I've heard AAs say it themselves, tbh. I've also read it on here and on LSA. There's nothing strange about affirming your roots. Would you call  yourself something other than AA because you lived abroad?

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Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

^Americans coined the term bc they didn't want to be called negro or colored.  I'm pretty certain they weren't thinking about the other black populations who were in the US or who would eventually migrate. It was during the era of desegregation & blacks wanted to cement their role in American society. Like we've been here, built this nation, and we're Americans too!...that kinda thing.


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It's like the term regular black....[which I know starts a sh!t storm on BHM but honestly I only ever heard AA's refer to themselves as such in college]

or I had someone this week explain their heritage to me like this "My dad is Ethiopian but my mom is Black." I took that to mean their mom is AA.
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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

African American means that you are a descendant of American slaves.  They're all black but not African-American [if they were born in America].  I may identify as AA simply bc American society does not really care about the differences of culture w/in the black community.  Whereas white people can be Irish, Italian, Jewish, English, German, etc.

I never knew all that was implied by that term. I have my doubts but okay. 


I've heard AAs say it themselves, tbh. I've also read it on here and on LSA. There's nothing strange about affirming your roots. Would you call  yourself something other than AA because you lived abroad?


I thought we were talking about people born in the US. but I'm not tryna start nothing though. I made a thread about this topic before.
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Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

It's like the term regular black....[which I know starts a sh!t storm on BHM but honestly I only ever heard AA's refer to themselves as such in college]

or I had someone this week explain their heritage to me like this "My dad is Ethiopian but my mom is Black." I took that to mean their mom is AA.


Man, that threw me for a loop when I read this on forums. I'm like "what do you mean, regular black?" As opposed to "strange black"?
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When ppl say regla black I just assume they mean African American because most of us here are AA.
If it was a mostly Haitian board the Haitians would be the regla blacks
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I'm not about debate in this positive thread. LOL
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Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

African American means that you are a descendant of American slaves.  They're all black but not African-American [if they were born in America].  I may identify as AA simply bc American society does not really care about the differences of culture w/in the black community.  Whereas white people can be Irish, Italian, Jewish, English, German, etc.

I never knew all that was implied by that term. I have my doubts but okay. 


I've heard AAs say it themselves, tbh. I've also read it on here and on LSA. There's nothing strange about affirming your roots. Would you call  yourself something other than AA because you lived abroad?


I thought we were talking about people born in the US. but I'm not tryna start nothing though. I made a thread about this topic before.


But the same concept applies anywhere.
I'm born in Canada. I call myself haitian canadian. If I were born in England, I'd call myself Haitian British. I don't understand the issue. Other nationalities get to call themselves Italian American, Irish American, etc. Why shouldn't we be able to refer to the country of our roots?
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Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

I'm not about debate in this positive thread. LOL


Anyway, it's no biggie. I was just explaining the logic behind it.
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Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Okay so...if you are African by blood and are born in raised in America that doesn't make you African American? 

But then again I'm not derived from any Caribbean country so maybe there's a nuance in this I'm overlooking (or maybe it has nothing to do with being American).

I understand claiming Haitian American. But they're still African American at the same time. They're not not African American.

I respect your opinion though.

that's it. But Epitome and JP are doing a very good job explaining it. Star what happens is that a Haitian American may be a first second or third generation. Though being born in the USA, they aren't AA (because it technically is your term) how much you identify with and "claim" the land of your forefathers and foremothers lol depends on your parents and the individual as well.

An African born in the states would never bee an African american but would be a Nigerian-American for example. We are using nationality not continents for this discussion. Collectively if you are looking at a group of persons of African parentage born in the states you could say look at that group of african americans, i guess.

Im not sure how it is in Haiti but in Jamaica if you can identify one Jamaican grandparent you'll automatically be a Jamaican citizen, can get the passport and everything even if you've never set foot here or plan to.

JP or EPI what is the (nick)name for Haiti(an) again? It has slipped my mind. Like Yard, Bim, Naija, yankee etc
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