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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 05 2013 at 4:18pm
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Hi Redsox,

I have unprocessed, coiled, virgin black hair and I desperately want to dye/tone/bleach it white. I've never bleached my hair before so I plan to take your advice and use the 2oz of 7th stage, 4oz of 20 volume creme developer with 3 packets of activator for about 45 minutes.

My question is am I going to need to bleach my hair twice?

If so, how long should I wait in between bleachings?

Should I use 3 packets of activator both times or would that be too harsh?

And how can I do this without destroying my hair (I'm trying to do this with as little damage as possible)?

I know that I'll have to do an intense protein treatment, then tone and condition, but my biggest worry is on how to bleach the hair light enough for the toner to take properly without breaking my hair off.

Sooo... The amount of packets, the length of time the bleach is left in and the number of times I bleach it.

Thanks for your time and really... any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Smile













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Originally posted by Yogibear1989 Yogibear1989 wrote:

Hi Redsox,

I have unprocessed, coiled, virgin black hair and I desperately want to dye/tone/bleach it white. I've never bleached my hair before so I plan to take your advice and use the 2oz of 7th stage, 4oz of 20 volume creme developer with 3 packets of activator for about 45 minutes.

My question is am I going to need to bleach my hair twice?
That will depend on your application and how your hair processes. A Level 10 pale yellow (like the inside of a banana peel) is the lighteset your should EVER bleach hair; from there a violet based toner will be needed to get white hair. Do a strand test first to see how long you will leave the lightener in and if you may need to lighten more than once. If so, I say use two packets the first time and one packet the second time.


If so, how long should I wait in between bleachings?
That all depends on the condition of your hair and scalp after the first bleaching. If the scalp feels dry or tender wait a few days to a week (or until the scalp heals) to lighten again. If the hair is fried wait 2 weeks to a month (or until the hair is in better condtion) to repeat. Patience is very important when it comes to bleaching.


Should I use 3 packets of activator both times or would that be too harsh?
Using three packets twice would be too harsh and could result hair with the texture of overcooked noodles which will have to be cut off. If two lightenng processes are needed, use two packets the first time and 1 packet the second time.


And how can I do this without destroying my hair (I'm trying to do this with as little damage as possible)?
White hair is high maintenance!!! It requires a lot of upkeep so be prepared to stick to a hardcore regimen. This means weekly reconstructing/condtioning, moisturizing, toning and then root touch-ups. Before doing any sort of color change, both hair and scalp need to be in good condition....no rough combing or brushing, scabs, breakouts wounds, breakage, split ends, protein/moisture overload.


I know that I'll have to do an intense protein treatment, then tone and condition, but my biggest worry is on how to bleach the hair light enough for the toner to take properly without breaking my hair off.
I apply virgin coconut oil to my hair and scalp the day before lightening to help give a bit of protection from dryness. There's toners that don't require developer; I find those are actually better for people that may have a tender scalp (like I do) after bleaching. There's also the violet shampoos and conditioners so a toner may not even be needed.



Sooo... The amount of packets, the length of time the bleach is left in and the number of times I bleach it.

Thanks for your time and really... any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Smile

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Ok I have a question:

I recently purchased an italian yaki unit in 1B and used BW bleach powder with clairol 40 developer to try to create an ombre effect. Of course, as has happened before, the color lifted and looked awesome with a strawberry blonde at the bottom, but ended up looking patchy and ash blonde in the middle (or ugly actually). And I found this odd since I started applying the bleach to the ends and worked my way up. So, I thought I would use a box dye to darken the middle section and make the transitional color look more natural and less harsh which I did just a few minutes ago. Unfortunately the color didn't really take and it looks blotchy and crappy. The reddish brown dyed sections ended up looking like pippy longstocking orange in some sections and just not taking at all in othersDead.

I'm not going to attempt to dye for at least a week and another deep condition since at this point I've done 2 processes in 48 hours. But at this point, I just want to get a nice warm brown in the center and a honey blond at the tips. Any suggestions?

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Right now I'm thinking I should just use the L'Oreal Hi Color in the blondes or browns colors with a 20 or 30 developer next week. Confused This was supposed to be my vacay hair so I have a month to figure it out! But your help is much appreciated!!!!

Update:

Ok so I was reading that dawn dish soap can take out color. And since the color I dyed was HIDEOUS I wanted to get it out ASAP. So, I ended up using palmolive, and it pulled out ALL of the ugly reddish orange. I'm soooo relieved. So, now it's sitting in a bunch of deep conditioner which I'll rinse out in a bit.

Still need a suggestion on how to dye the middle section a pretty color and not something God awful!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr 14 2013 at 6:33pm
So this was the ombre shade I was trying to achieve:



But at this point, I would happily settle for this:



But the big issue is that I have these weird ash blond/#27 chunks of color near the top line of demarkation where the bleach was applied towards the top of the wig. :( So I'm concerned that they'll take the color differently (if at all) than the rest of the hair.


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