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Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by texasmami0117 texasmami0117 wrote:

I'm still wondering how they got away with 5 white jurors and 1 hispanic. So many questions...



These were GZ peers not TM. They just threw in a token that they knew they could use as somewhat of a patsy to look racially unbiased while still being safe. She played her role just as they intended.
I didn't understand that logic either. Did they believe white women were incapable of being biased or did they assume that if they were biased, they'd be equally biased against blacks and Hispanics?
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Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

before I reply with a reasonable response .... did anyone bring up the 8 children yet?? 
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Originally posted by dOLLish. dOLLish. wrote:

Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by texasmami0117 texasmami0117 wrote:

I'm still wondering how they got away with 5 white jurors and 1 hispanic. So many questions...



These were GZ peers not TM. They just threw in a token that they knew they could use as somewhat of a patsy to look racially unbiased while still being safe. She played her role just as they intended.
I didn't understand that logic either. Did they believe white women were incapable of being biased or did they assume that if they were biased, they'd be equally biased against blacks and Hispanics?


They knew that a jury of 5 white women and 1 hispanic  woman would give them the verdict they wanted more so that a jury of 5 hispanic men and 1 AA man. White females must be the least bias of all.
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This makes me more sad than angry.

I'm in no way caping for this woman, but I believe in my heart that she means well and that she's sorry.

She didn't realize how much power her one vote had, and she let the yt's persuade her into voting majority.

Regardless of laws, she could've been the one juror who stood her ground and there would've been a mistrial.

I'm sad she's saying this now, and she didn't use this voice to vote against those devils.

I'm not gonna bash her because I get the technicalities of the law and I think she is sincere, but I don't agree with her decision...right is right, wrong is wrong, legal or not.
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Also, I don't think she needs to fear ppl in support of TM, she needs to watch out for porky pig and his klan...that's who will make her life a living hell for releasing this statement.

sn: This guy broke it down on 106th and Park last week and made me understand how the law finds murderers not-guilty...

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I Fux with Mark Lamont..
and I agree with him... lemme watch that vid now
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Originally posted by dOLLish. dOLLish. wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by dOLLish. dOLLish. wrote:

Is the law the same for self-defense? I think what confused me (and maybe a lot of other people) were the terms SYG and self-defense. The media kept talking about the SYG law, but GZ claimed self-defense. I can't understand how a person can initiate a scuffle and then try to claim they acted in self-defense. No one could have argued that?
 
Also, if the SYG law wasn't in question, then how could the defense include it in the instructions? None of the jurors questioned that?
 
i don't believe the prosecution presented any solid evidence that gz actually physically initiated the scuffle?  ie struck first?
 
everything else that led up to the scuffle...following/stalking/verbally confronting (with a loaded weapon) a minor isn't ilegal.  if these things were ilegal, gz would have been arrested and charged with those offenses since he basically admitted to committing these acts.  this is also why those things weren't legally relevent to the verdict.  in fact, the jury could have believed all of that occured and still could render a not guilty verdict.
 
the prosecution's job was to proove beyond a resonable doubt that either gz struck first or was NOT afraid for his life/great bodily harm when he reached for the gun and pulled the trigger.
I don't necessarily believe that a physical act (e.g., striking) has to initiate a scuffle. How many fights have you seen start when a person walks up to someone and invades their personal space? GZ initiated the confrontation. Why shouldn't he be responsible for what happened after?
 
 
 
verbally questioning/confronting someone sans any verbal threats of harm (assault), isn't against the law.
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Originally posted by KeraNykole KeraNykole wrote:

I feel bad for her. Like she said, you have to take your heart out of it and make a decision SOLELY on the evidence. The STATE didn't prove their case. That's not the jurors fault. As much as I hate how this went, this is the PROSECUTORS fault. Not theirs.

I agree. Prosecution failed and she had to make an unbiased decision based on facts and the law.

It sucks, but that is our judicial system.
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Originally posted by iGotSunshine iGotSunshine wrote:

The judge included it in the instructions.
Even though the defense didnt base their case on SYG Florida has that law so I'm guessing it must be used in all self defense cases even if the defense doesn't base their case on it.

"If you have reasonable fear" I mean that's so vague and I can't believe it was passed

No, that is not how it works.
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