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Originally posted by sLeepy x0x sLeepy x0x wrote:

An overly critical person could argue that there are a few mistakes in the OP.


 
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I don't read critically on BHM though. Most people avoid caps, punctuation, and proper grammar on BHM, not due to a lack of awareness, but because (as others have said) BHM is not work or school. It is fun, so have fun guys. Big smile Relax.
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Originally posted by katakana89 katakana89 wrote:

All I can say is there are more than one type of American English, and Black English/African American Vernacular English/Black Vernacular English, whatever linguists up top are calling it now, is the most stigmatized, and I believe will always be the most stigmatized dialect of the Englishes. This kind of thread proves it (the OP in particular seemed to be talking more about text speech, I'm not sure).

Also, Rosetta Stone doesn’t make one fluent in a language. It’s a nice start, though.


I don't see how this is related to misspelling words and not knowing standard American English, grammar, and punctuation, which are taught in free public schools. I type in vernacular sometimes, and no one would mistake it for me not knowing standard English. Nothing about black English calls for run on sentences, misspelled words and comma splices. There is a big difference. This is a cop out.
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Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:



I don't see how this is related to misspelling words and not knowing standard American English, grammar, and punctuation, which are taught in free public schools. I type in vernacular sometimes, and no one would mistake it for me not knowing standard English. Nothing about black English calls for run on sentences, misspelled words and comma splices. There is a big difference. This is a cop out.


No one but yall cares. People ask questions and get answers despite all of the above. It's a non issue.
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I thought I clarified the OP post isn't about Black English or Standard American English, but texting/SMS speech, which is a whole other level of written language. Someone else posted it before me and I quoted. 


Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:

Originally posted by katakana89 katakana89 wrote:

All I can say is there are more than one type of American English, and Black English/African American Vernacular English/Black Vernacular English, whatever linguists up top are calling it now, is the most stigmatized, and I believe will always be the most stigmatized dialect of the Englishes. This kind of thread proves it (the OP in particular seemed to be talking more about text speech, I'm not sure).

Also, Rosetta Stone doesn’t make one fluent in a language. It’s a nice start, though.


I don't see how this is related to misspelling words and not knowing standard American English, grammar, and punctuation, which are taught in free public schools. I type in vernacular sometimes, and no one would mistake it for me not knowing standard English. Nothing about black English calls for run on sentences, misspelled words and comma splices. There is a big difference. This is a cop out.
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Originally posted by nitabug nitabug wrote:

Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:



I don't see how this is related to misspelling words and not knowing standard American English, grammar, and punctuation, which are taught in free public schools. I type in vernacular sometimes, and no one would mistake it for me not knowing standard English. Nothing about black English calls for run on sentences, misspelled words and comma splices. There is a big difference. This is a cop out.


No one but yall cares. People ask questions and get answers despite all of the above. It's a non issue.

That's great but that's not what I addressed just now. The fact is that a poor grasp of the mechanics of one's native language due to laziness is not a component of black vernacular. Believe it or not black English has grammatical rules also. Any display of poor grammar is not necessarily black English and that was my point. We need to stop excusing ignorance as cultural and do better.
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Originally posted by katakana89 katakana89 wrote:

I thought I clarified the OP post isn't about Black English or Standard American English, but texting/SMS speech, which is a whole other level of written language. Someone else posted it before me and I quoted. 


Originally posted by SweetNovember* SweetNovember* wrote:

Originally posted by katakana89 katakana89 wrote:

All I can say is there are more than one type of American English, and Black English/African American Vernacular English/Black Vernacular English, whatever linguists up top are calling it now, is the most stigmatized, and I believe will always be the most stigmatized dialect of the Englishes. This kind of thread proves it (the OP in particular seemed to be talking more about text speech, I'm not sure).

Also, Rosetta Stone doesn’t make one fluent in a language. It’s a nice start, though.


I don't see how this is related to misspelling words and not knowing standard American English, grammar, and punctuation, which are taught in free public schools. I type in vernacular sometimes, and no one would mistake it for me not knowing standard English. Nothing about black English calls for run on sentences, misspelled words and comma splices. There is a big difference. This is a cop out.

Your above post isn't referencing text speech, correct? I addressed what you said about black English, not what you said about text speech.
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Lol'ing at most people putting in their best effort for perfect typing in this thread! I have never seen such a grammatically correct thread on bhm in my all my membership term! Lol, look, now I'm doing/giving my saddest attempt at it lol.
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lol this is heeeelarious!!!!!!!!
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Until the last year or two, I've been an avid reader. I know my grammar and syntax aren't perfect but I would ASSume that people that have done more reading than average notice grammatical errors and they likely stand out more. And I'm sure that there are hordes of folk not slightly bothered wen ppl type lyk dis n dat. Or even better, LyK dYs N dAT.
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