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Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

i saw the trailer for belle

I'll see it if the pining for white acceptance isn't overbearing... I got that vibe from the trailer 

So my spirit was right to avoid 12 yrs a slave? The one exceptional black and the white savior are two themes that I can not abide




no 12 years was good. white people did have to save Solomon though bc they had his freedom papers--in that sense it wasn't 
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well it was a white man that helped him regain his freedom....I'm not sure how you can avoid that

but a mulatto trying be accepted by whites

I will pass

rather watch Queen
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


well it was a white man that helped him regain his freedom....I'm not sure how you can avoid that

but a mulatto trying be accepted by whites

I will pass

rather watch Queen


Do you honestly believe that I would actually dig a movie where this is the central plot? Dead

The movie is dope because she doesn't play the TROPE that Halle 'yessa massa' Berry played in Queen.

There is so much more dignity for Black/biracial women in this movie then there has been for others because....

1. It's about her. She is the lead, she is the star. You feel HER pain and you're concerned with HER plight

2. Her father claims her (this is a central theme in the movie) whereas her full white cousin is not claimed by her father

3. While this could be considered a romance movie, I personally felt that romance was in the backdrop of the main issue. The main issue was the immorality of Black bodies being considered valueless lives but valuable cargo

4. She doesn't beg to be accepted. She is accepted (though not entirely) by many and when she's not she certainly doesn't beg

5. She is not simply pretty, she is smart and an activist at heart. She is the real hero of the story, the Whites are just a vessel


In 12 Years a Slave, black/biracial women are in the background abused and used. Their feelings, trials and tribulations are not central to the story. It felt like slave p0rn. Very melodramatic with no real purpose. Not the worst slave movie but not the best either


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I didn't like 12 years a slave that much. I like the butler way better. Belle looks good , but yah I feel the biracial lead will draw white people to the theater and maybe it makes it look like being biracial is better than being fully black.

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Originally posted by indiecat indiecat wrote:

I didn't like 12 years a slave that much. I like the butler way better. Belle looks good , but yah I feel the biracial lead will draw white people to the theater and maybe it makes it look like being biracial is better than being fully black.


well those are two different movies telling two different stories.
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IA indie, the Butler was better than 12 Yrs

and regarding this...

maybe it makes it look like being biracial is better than being fully black.

It's hard to deny that this was a reality back in those times (and some would argue the same rings true today) but this is also handled well in the movie

eta: It's hard to confront that issue head on because, at the end of the day, the movie was about the real life and very privileged Dido Belle and how she made a understated impact on the future of slavery


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I didn't realize Belle was out.  I'll prolly go see it.  It didn't seem to me that she was begging for acceptance in the trailer.  I thought her father claimed her but his family didn't and she just dealt with it.  Wasn't some dude asking why she didn't eat dinner with her family and she said because it wasn't proper or summin'? 

So this has a black triad?  I'll most likely go see it then.  Put my money where my mouth is.


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I wouldn't see the butler either

still not interested in belle

why don't I remember the biracials in 12 years a slave?

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Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

i saw the trailer for belle

I'll see it if the pining for white acceptance isn't overbearing... I got that vibe from the trailer 

So my spirit was right to avoid 12 yrs a slave? The one exceptional black and the white savior are two themes that I can not abide




no 12 years was good. white people did have to save Solomon though bc they had his freedom papers--in that sense it wasn't 

Brad Pitt had to send the letter for him, but it's a movie about a real person though so....

And I found the movie Solomon Northrups Odyssey as I just did a quick google search.
Anyone seen that?! 
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