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    Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 9:50am
Hi ladies
 
What's the real difference between these two? Can an adult use a relaxer for a children?
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I asked the same question also.  The answer I received was there is not really a difference, and that it depends on the brand you use.  I am an adult and I have used childerens perms since I was in college.  Particularily Beautiful Begginings by Dark and Lovely.  They work fine on my hair.  It may depend on your hair type also.

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For sensitive sista's or one's with very fine hair (I have both), child perms are different in that they take longer to 'burn' the scalp.  People with sensitive scalps are not always able to leave the relaxer in long enough to be thoroughly effective because it starts burning/irritating before the time is up and sometimes, before I get a chance to do my whole head.  The child relaxers tend to be able to be left on longer before this burning even begins or without this burning effect at all.

Sometimes, the problem isn't sensitive scalp, but that even the regular relaxer over-processes very fine hair.  In this case, the child perms tend to be gentler.  I of course, have both issues.
 
I know some people whose hair is just hard to straighten so they leave the kiddy perm in longer than recommended but it does well, their hair doesn't seem to be damaged AND the scalp doesn't get burned (I DON'T RECOMMEND THIS EVER, JUST TELLING WHAT 2 PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE DO - SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, IT'S AT YOUR OWN RISK).
 
Botanicals for sensitive scalp is an excellent adult relaxer for sensitive scalp/fine hair issues, I like the results and have never been disappointed.  Must admit though, I buy whatever is on sale when my pockets aren't right but I pay for this dearly so i try my best not to (OUCH!)


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Good info!!!!!!!Smile
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Thank you so much for the info sbj1104
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you're welcome ladies.
 
I'm tired of having to co-wash my hair every other day because it turns into a puff ball with all the new growth I'm desperately trying not to relax.
 
I've tried different products claiming to lock out humidity but none of them seem to work.  I seal with sweet almond oil and as needed, use a mixture of coconut and olive between washings (which are now at every other day to make my hair lay).
 
Anyone have ideas?  I know it's not going to be straight, but the chia petting every other day HAS to go (lol).


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Hi sbj1104,  Smile
 
I was thinking about trying the Botanicals relaxer for myself b/c I have a very dry, sensitive scalp that always develops dandruff after a relaxer.  Every time I get rid of the dandruff, it comes right back a couple of days after. Do you think a sensitive scalp relaxer will help with that?  My hair is very thick & curly, does this straighten thick hair?  I've also heard good things about S&B's Triple Hydration Oil Relaxer--I wonder since you mix the oil in, would that help with dry scalp? I know Soft and Beautiful relaxers used to be really gentle. 


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Can't comment on the other relaxers, I haven't used them in a long time.  The Botanicals Super straightens beautifully (and doesn't burn if you leave the stuff on a little past the recommended time like other relaxers).
 
I'd try oiling the scalp with a mixture of jojoba and tea tree oil.  Tea tree helps stop the cause of the dandruff and the jojoba oil allows for high moisturization and assists with scaling the dandruff away and unclogging the hair follicles.  Try to do a gentle scalp massage for like 5-10 minutes a day and see if your dandruff starts to clear.
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there is no major difference child relaxers can be just as harsh as ones for adults

if you are looking for something milder trying a relaxer with a lower ph should help
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1264
it's a list of relaxer PHs

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Originally posted by MarilynH

Hi sbj1104,  Smile
 
I was thinking about trying the Botanicals relaxer for myself b/c I have a very dry, sensitive scalp that always develops dandruff after a relaxer.  Every time I get rid of the dandruff, it comes right back a couple of days after. Do you think a sensitive scalp relaxer will help with that?  My hair is very thick & curly, does this straighten thick hair?  I've also heard good things about S&B's Triple Hydration Oil Relaxer--I wonder since you mix the oil in, would that help with dry scalp? I know Soft and Beautiful relaxers used to be really gentle. 
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Thanks so much, sbj1104 Thumbs%20Up When you oil your hair with tea tree oil & jojoba oil, do you dilute them first?  How many parts tea tree & how many parts jojoba?  Thanks again!

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im 19 and i use to use PCJ when i was a kid, but around the age of 12 my mom switched me to motions mild relaxer, and i have been using this ever since.
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to be honest there is no real difference it is just for marketing purposes..I used a kid relaxer b4 and it burnt me more than the adult ones. as long as ur using the strength suitable for your hair ir really dont matter..
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MarilynH, I have not been on the board for about a week or two.
 
I don't dilute them. I either use the tea tree or I use the jojoba.  I part my hair and put a few drops in each section and run it the length of the part with my fingers the same as we 'all' did back in the day 'greasing' the scalp.  When I'm done, I gently massage the whole head as if I were washing it.
 
The jojoba makes my hair REALLY soft.  The tea tree helps if you have itching.  There's no reason you couldn't use them together though but I don't have a formula for you.
 
I have mixed coconut and olive oil in even parts and put them into a color developer bottle with a VERY narrow tip and that seems to work for me, it prevents the coconut from turning back into a solid.  These are good for the hair, but they don't necessarily do the same things as the tea tree and jojoba.  I really just grab any of the oils, trying to rotate them.
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well, ladies, I gave in and relaxed my hair.  Couldn't take the chia pet.
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