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I remember it was a big debate in America about if the Christians who jumped to their death on 9/11 to avoid the flames/smoke went to hell for committing suicide.
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Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

lol nah i think modeless really did have good intentions..

I would agree if
1) she didn't throw so much shade at atheist
2) this wasn't a poorly executed  repost
3) if she actually STUCK to her op and not tried to debate with us.  just nod & smile, no rebuttals
 
 
if she really wanted answers, she would have just read the original thread     

what original thread?
And i still think she was genuinely interested..
she just started to respond when people had questions concerning God/Christ
I didn't know there were so many black atheist till i got on this forum... so i 4 sure was a bit interested
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Originally posted by beebeexx beebeexx wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

god is responsible for all. 
i'm sure he wouldn't put princesshoneybee through anything that he didn't believe that she would overcome. 


what about those who commit suicide? or die from OD in the midst of their addiction? or whose hearts give out during recovery?


it is all part of god's plan. strengthening your faith in god, will enforce your belief in yourself. you are a child of god, know that he is always walking with you. 


none of that can happen if you're dead. and if you due in your lowest point (I.e. Amy winehouse) then what? you didn't overcome.
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Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

lol nah i think modeless really did have good intentions..

I would agree if
1) she didn't throw so much shade at atheist
2) this wasn't a poorly executed  repost
3) if she actually STUCK to her op and not tried to debate with us.  just nod & smile, no rebuttals
 
 
if she really wanted answers, she would have just read the original thread     

what original thread?
And i still think she was genuinely interested..
she just started to respond when people had questions concerning God/Christ
I didn't know there were so many black atheist till i got on this forum... so i 4 sure was a bit interested


I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of atheist that routinely attend church. They just don't say anything because they don't want to be ostracized. They continue to go for tradition, family and friend fellowship, and music.
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

lol nah i think modeless really did have good intentions..

I would agree if
1) she didn't throw so much shade at atheist
2) this wasn't a poorly executed  repost
3) if she actually STUCK to her op and not tried to debate with us.  just nod & smile, no rebuttals
 
 
if she really wanted answers, she would have just read the original thread     

what original thread?
And i still think she was genuinely interested..
she just started to respond when people had questions concerning God/Christ
I didn't know there were so many black atheist till i got on this forum... so i 4 sure was a bit interested

I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of atheist that routinely attend church. They just don't say anything because they don't want to be ostracized. They continue to go for tradition, family and friend fellowship, and music.

that's true.. a cpl here already said they go to church for the music.LOL
I just couldn't imagine them tithing, doing communion etc.. but who knows..
There are plenty of ppl who claim to believe in God but go against everything he preaches, so maybe deep in their hearts they really don't believe....


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Originally posted by beebeexx beebeexx wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:


Originally posted by beebeexx beebeexx wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

god is responsible for all. 
i'm sure he wouldn't put princesshoneybee through anything that he didn't believe that she would overcome. 


what about those who commit suicide? or die from OD in the midst of their addiction? or whose hearts give out during recovery?


it is all part of god's plan. strengthening your faith in god, will enforce your belief in yourself. you are a child of god, know that he is always walking with you. 


none of that can happen if you're dead. and if you due in your lowest point (I.e. Amy winehouse) then what? you didn't overcome.

sometimes there are those who only reach for the scripture when they are in their toughest times. there is such a long process to gain strength within yourself to give your soul back to god.. that it can't be done in the two minutes that we desire. Smile
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i don't think there are many atheists  in church. 
maybe agnostics. a lot of apathetic theists, and lots more sunday christians. 
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I imagine that songs like Yolanda Adams "Never Give Up" is inspiring for both Christians and atheist, with no second thoughts given to either. The message is about keeping the faith because everything you need is inside of you. Song talks about facing the world. Changing the world. Keeping the dream alive. All of that could be interpreted as Christian. Or maybe not.



The lyrics don't say "don't give up a God."  They say don't give up on you. I've observed a TON of inspiring christian music without any mention of Jesus.

Sort of like how Christians sing "I Believe I Can Fly" at churchLOL.




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ok Flowing I don't know if you're willfully ignoring my question or not but I'm just going to bow out now.
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bunny you remind me of rohan

very consumed with arguing with christians for self-professed atheists

the fuccks you give are just too much and too rough

yeah, thats it, you give such a rough fucck

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