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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:


neka I would say she's correct in what she believes because when you boil it all down the ONLY "sin" that is actually unforgivable is denying the existence of god.   That said IF that is true a murderer or rapist has a better chance of going to heaven (with repentance) than a highly moral atheist.  I'm pretty much doomedCryLOL.

Welp...Whoever gets there first should look out for the other one. See ya' there twinLOL
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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

neka I would say she's correct in what she believes because when you boil it all down the ONLY "sin" that is actually unforgivable is denying the existence of god.   That said IF that is true a murderer or rapist has a better chance of going to heaven (with repentance) than a highly moral atheist.  I'm pretty much doomedCryLOL.



^^^ Damn. That's insane. My family raised me ALL wrong.

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Originally posted by freedom76 freedom76 wrote:


Originally posted by ModelessDiva ModelessDiva wrote:



God has done enough in my life for me to believe He exists.
Just like I said even if there is no heaven and hell I would still keep my faith.


Hopefully this isn't too intrusive..What would the purpose of your religion be if heaven or hell didn't exist?


Not intrusive. :)

I do believe the Bible instructs on how to be more of a good person... more Christ-like.

But that it's subjective I see, not everybody in here believes God is good.... so I'll leave it at that
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Originally posted by freedom76 freedom76 wrote:

Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:


neka I would say she's correct in what she believes because when you boil it all down the ONLY "sin" that is actually unforgivable is denying the existence of god.   That said IF that is true a murderer or rapist has a better chance of going to heaven (with repentance) than a highly moral atheist.  I'm pretty much doomedCryLOL.

Welp...Whoever gets there first should look out for the other one. See ya' there twinLOL

I gotchew bew.  We will be in the WBuffet VIP room.  The one with the red curtains, not the one with the tacky green velvet onesWink
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Summary?
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Originally posted by ModelessDiva ModelessDiva wrote:



Not intrusive. :)

I do believe the Bible instructs on how to be more of a good person... more Christ-like.

But that it's subjective I see, not everybody in here believes God is good.... so I'll leave it at that

Ahhhh...I like that answer. It is OK that a lot of us do not believe...Many of what we have learned comes from religion. I can read the Bible and find countless gems. Thank you for answering.
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

I read a cracked article a few nights ago talking about books of the bible that were removed due to being "too awesome." I swear that article had me dying of laughter. I wanted to post it on here but Ion like ruffling feathers.

I wanna see!!!!!
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Originally posted by blaquefoxx blaquefoxx wrote:

Summary?


The thread has stayed the course of the premise. People sharing their thoughts.
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

lol what if you believe in God, but get to the gates of heaven, and it was the Jehovas Witness God that was the right one. Then you still get sent to hell for praising God on Christmas and them other holidays.

my parents would be golden!
maybe i can get in through time served?LOL
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Originally posted by nekamarie83 nekamarie83 wrote:

Originally posted by ModelessDiva ModelessDiva wrote:

I heard something similar to this a long time ago.

I love the way the man worded it.

Would you rather gamble living your life believing that there is no God, only for you to die and find out there is after its too late to repent and receive salvation?

Or live your life believing that there is a God, and find out that there isn't one.
This premise is skewed. It assumes that atheist = amoral. It's possible to follow many of the bible's concepts (don't lie, don't steal, honor your mother and father, do unto others) and not actually believe in God. Not to mention, that it takes a LOT more than just belief in God to heaven.


I see what you're saying too, but I think his point was that you won't be allowed into God's kingdom, if you don't believe in God.

Yes, you can follow all of the concepts but if you don't believe in God, how can he let you into His kingdom?

That's like telling someone to their face you don't like them or that they're fake and then turning around and asking them to let you into their house...



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