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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

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What about things that are out of your human control?   In my case I did all I could humanly possible to help myself.   Like I hear that God knows what's going to happen before it does.   How does God choose who gets inflicted with an illness that leaves them and their lives upside down? How does God choose who suffers and why would such a loving, awesome, healing God be like this?

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I want to try and answer this.   This is exactly what I mean by him taking the blame for the human condition.  The reality is that humankind is going to both suffer and succeed.  Its pretty much a crap shoot for us mortals.   Something out of human control cannot BE controlled no matter how hard we pray and no matter how hard we wish for something different.   

A devout Christian, Jew, Muslim's child can be run over by a tractor
An agnostic / buddist / wiccan's child can be run over by a tractor

Unfortunately the majority of people need to associate this tragedy with a deity or lack thereof.   It really is a human instinct that organized religion capitalizes on.    

The sad fact is that as humanity goes we only have one another to rely on.  It is not religion or gods that control our destiny.  The most common culprits of our woes are capitalism, immorality, our flawed bodies and other humans.   Everything is a numbers game.  It is so so important to find your own best happy and do everything you can to hold on to it.   

For those who believe in their deity it can be a great source of comfort to think that a warm loving god is there to sooth the pain of loss or the pain of plain old life.   For the rest of us there a different kind of comfort but is it really that different?  No.  God is somewhat of a human coping mechanism not much different than my husband's loving embrace, its just that mine is right next to me in the flesh.  

I know I wrote a lot cNs but I was trying to offer some e-comfortHug


I get this.  Heart  I tried to explain the comfort thing to my mom but she just wasn't having it.
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Originally posted by AmyAmyAmy AmyAmyAmy wrote:

Originally posted by soarlikecruz soarlikecruz wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

I don't have a reason for not believing in God.
Nothing bad has ever happened to me.
I just simply don't and religion was never a part of my life really....I enjoy learning about it though.



this.. and it bores me *shrug*

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Don't really see the point...lots of problems in life we either have to change ourselves or accept. 
There is not intervening  force in life. Alot of life is pure luck
Also all these leaders of churches are mere humans themselves.
i hate how it divides people

I like to sleep in on sundays lolSmile


I agree.  Lately I'm starting to feel like a lot of life is luck.  I know some people say they don't believe in luck, but there are tons of situations that you can't control no matter how much you prepare in your life.
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Originally posted by CuteNSweet CuteNSweet wrote:

Originally posted by AmyAmyAmy AmyAmyAmy wrote:

Originally posted by soarlikecruz soarlikecruz wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

I don't have a reason for not believing in God.
Nothing bad has ever happened to me.
I just simply don't and religion was never a part of my life really....I enjoy learning about it though.



this.. and it bores me *shrug*

This

Don't really see the point...lots of problems in life we either have to change ourselves or accept. 
There is not intervening  force in life. Alot of life is pure luck
Also all these leaders of churches are mere humans themselves.
i hate how it divides people

I like to sleep in on sundays lolSmile


I agree.  Lately I'm starting to feel like a lot of life is luck.  I know some people say they don't believe in luck, but there are tons of situations that you can't control no matter how much you prepare in your life.

*nods*

There are some really talented/hardworking people in life who never seem to catch a break and others who are not as talented/hardworking who get all the shine.
 


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Thank you guys for not fighting while I was gone
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do you worry about what can happen to your soul if GOD is real? 
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Originally posted by ModelCitizen ModelCitizen wrote:

do you worry about what can happen to your soul if GOD is real? 
No...I actually think I would be pleasantly surprised. I think this goes back to my opinion that this "god" is way beyond human knowledge. So what is there to worry about?
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Good thread.
 
I do believe in a higher power than me. However, I am not into organized religion at all.
 
Over the years, I've gone back and forth from being a believer to a non-believer. I waiver back and forth because of family pressure and it's supposed to be the right thing to do.
 
My family changed once we got here, we went from an african based religion to christianity. But there is something that is pulling me back from being a Christian wholeheartedly.


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I read a cracked article a few nights ago talking about books of the bible that were removed due to being "too awesome." I swear that article had me dying of laughter. I wanted to post it on here but Ion like ruffling feathers.
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

I read a cracked article a few nights ago talking about books of the bible that were removed due to being "too awesome." I swear that article had me dying of laughter. I wanted to post it on here but Ion like ruffling feathers.

So these awesome "unknown" books existed, huhLOL PM me the link..I wanna laugh too.
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