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 Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 10:58am |
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i will never forget the day i stopped attending church...i actually got up and walked out of the service
it was around the time that heath ledger died
the pastor said the reason he died is because he played a gay cowboy in Brokeback Mountain...i was done
mentally i had already checked out but that was the moment where i was like what the hell??
Organized religion is such a turn off to me...
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:04am |
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I know humans are faulty. I didn't need a holy book to tell me that. With this knowledge, I choose to only attend services for special occasions. I am not going to be lead by a mere mortal. Now if Optimus Prime comes knocking on my door, I will hop my ass on his hand and follow his every word.
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Optimus is the man but when are Morpheus and Neo coming? It would be some awesome to walk in and out of the Matrix at will
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:12am |
i also really think that the pastors and "church folk" can really affect a person's perspective and decision.
i wasn't raised in church did not go at all and even had my questions growing up of things that did not make sense to me in the bible and God. then in college, i started going because i felt it was what everyone was "supposed to do". but a few years ago, i found a church home that really brought everything home for me. interpreted the bible in a way that you can understand and relate it to your life, non-judgmental and they always call out those "church folk" who try to look down on others. my faith is so much stronger now.
so it makes me wonder what percentage of folk just had bad experiences where it just turned them off completely. but there are churches who are the real deal. thankfully, i found one of them to help me strengthen my faith and believe now more than ever.
a long time ago, an ex-boyfriends mother who was heavily religious told me that when finding a church home, you go and write down a question that you want to be answered. If that service did not answer that question for you, then go to the next church until you find one that does.
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:15am |
i think there is a church for everyone. its like picking a college or something. you have certain pre-requisites that you feel are important, find a church that meets that.. but helps you grow spiritually and helps you bring your soul closer to god. thats the role of the church for me.
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:18am |
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What about things that are out of your human control? In my case I did all I could humanly possible to help myself. Like I hear that God knows what's going to happen before it does. How does God choose who gets inflicted with an illness that leaves them and their lives upside down? How does God choose who suffers and why would such a loving, awesome, healing God be like this? |
I want to try and answer this. This is exactly what I mean by him taking the blame for the human condition. The reality is that humankind is going to both suffer and succeed. Its pretty much a crap shoot for us mortals. Something out of human control cannot BE controlled no matter how hard we pray and no matter how hard we wish for something different.
A devout Christian, Jew, Muslim's child can be run over by a tractor An agnostic / buddist / wiccan's child can be run over by a tractor
Unfortunately the majority of people need to associate this tragedy with a deity or lack thereof. It really is a human instinct that organized religion capitalizes on.
The sad fact is that as humanity goes we only have one another to rely on. It is not religion or gods that control our destiny. The most common culprits of our woes are capitalism, immorality, our flawed bodies and other humans. Everything is a numbers game. It is so so important to find your own best happy and do everything you can to hold on to it.
For those who believe in their deity it can be a great source of comfort to think that a warm loving god is there to sooth the pain of loss or the pain of plain old life. For the rest of us there a different kind of comfort but is it really that different? No. God is somewhat of a human coping mechanism not much different than my husband's loving embrace, its just that mine is right next to me in the flesh.
I know I wrote a lot cNs but I was trying to offer some e-comfort 
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:27am |
Spokenword wrote:
i also really think that the pastors and "church folk" can really affect a person's perspective and decision.
i wasn't raised in church did not go at all and even had my questions growing up of things that did not make sense to me in the bible and God. then in college, i started going because i felt it was what everyone was "supposed to do". but a few years ago, i found a church home that really brought everything home for me. interpreted the bible in a way that you can understand and relate it to your life, non-judgmental and they always call out those "church folk" who try to look down on others. my faith is so much stronger now.
so it makes me wonder what percentage of folk just had bad experiences where it just turned them off completely. but there are churches who are the real deal. thankfully, i found one of them to help me strengthen my faith and believe now more than ever.
a long time ago, an ex-boyfriends mother who was heavily religious told me that when finding a church home, you go and write down a question that you want to be answered. If that service did not answer that question for you, then go to the next church until you find one that does.
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:31am |
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I don't have a reason for not believing in God.Nothing bad has ever happened to me. I just simply don't and religion was never a part of my life really....I enjoy learning about it though. |
this.. and it bores me *shrug*
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Don't really see the point...lots of problems in life we either have to change ourselves or accept. There is not intervening force in life. Alot of life is pure luck Also all these leaders of churches are mere humans themselves. i hate how it divides people
I like to sleep in on sundays lol 
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:32am |
also some believers are hell bent on converting you. Very annoying...can't just accept other viewpoints.
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Posted: Mar 01 2013 at 11:35am |
kfoxx1998 wrote:
CuteNSweet wrote:
What about things that are out of your human control? In my case I did all I could humanly possible to help myself. Like I hear that God knows what's going to happen before it does. How does God choose who gets inflicted with an illness that leaves them and their lives upside down? How does God choose who suffers and why would such a loving, awesome, healing God be like this? |
I want to try and answer this. This is exactly what I mean by him taking the blame for the human condition. The reality is that humankind is going to both suffer and succeed. Its pretty much a crap shoot for us mortals. Something out of human control cannot BE controlled no matter how hard we pray and no matter how hard we wish for something different.
A devout Christian, Jew, Muslim's child can be run over by a tractor An agnostic / buddist / wiccan's child can be run over by a tractor
Unfortunately the majority of people need to associate this tragedy with a deity or lack thereof. It really is a human instinct that organized religion capitalizes on.
The sad fact is that as humanity goes we only have one another to rely on. It is not religion or gods that control our destiny. The most common culprits of our woes are capitalism, immorality, our flawed bodies and other humans. Everything is a numbers game. It is so so important to find your own best happy and do everything you can to hold on to it.
For those who believe in their deity it can be a great source of comfort to think that a warm loving god is there to sooth the pain of loss or the pain of plain old life. For the rest of us there a different kind of comfort but is it really that different? No. God is somewhat of a human coping mechanism not much different than my husband's loving embrace, its just that mine is right next to me in the flesh.
I know I wrote a lot cNs but I was trying to offer some e-comfort |
I've experienced this as a family tragedy occurred. instead of accepting that many problems lead up to this event and nobody was to blame...the family just proceeded to go hard on religion.
People need to accept that alot of life is out of our control.
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