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ThoughtCouture
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:09pm |
yep good point nj!
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maysay1
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:09pm |
petiteone29 wrote:
I get your point maysay. But from what I most families receiving fs are working poor. They have jobs. They just need some help. So standing in a line every single day just doesn't seem reasonable. And having the government dictate what they have to eat instead of giving them the option of purchasing their own food just seems kind of degrading to me. |
Well, they wouldn't be standing in line every day. They'd be going to pick up a to go box of food, breakfast and lunch. Though ideally it would be box of real whole foods, not prepared meals. The summer lunch programs here already provide food in a to-go manner. It's easy and fast so I know it can be done. Being hungry is degrading. Eating food from the trash is degrading. Begging people for food is degrading. All of which I've done. Standing in a line and being given some food other people chose, not degrading at all. Not my favorite option, but not degrading.
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petiteone29
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:11pm |
I remember the gov't cheese lines too TC. That was way back in the day. That cheese weighed like 20lbs and was good as hell though. I remember the plain white cans and boxes of usda foods with the black letters. They had powdered eggs, cannned pork, beans and some other things I can't remember.
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jonesable
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:11pm |
I think this gives SNAP recipients some flexibity .
Ideally we want ppl cooking healthy meals but there are certain occasional instances that prevents that.
I see why this is warranted.
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maysay1
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:16pm |
If a person is so disabled that they can't leave their house, carry groceries, or warm up food in a microwave...and they also have no caretaker to do it for them..then we've seriously failed them as a society if the only option to feed them is to allow them to order pizza from domino's and chinese food.
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NJHairLuv
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:17pm |
SamoneLenior wrote:
okay so we asked about fast food in the study (he even mentioned cali) but he didn't remember the results....I'll keep digging
.........we asked how often and how much did they spend on fast food
only found information for the control group, less than 10% reported eating one of their daily meals away from home at a fast food restaurant
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Thank you for checking. I love to know data on this.
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ThoughtCouture
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:18pm |
petiteone29 wrote:
I remember the gov't cheese lines too TC. That was way back in the day. That cheese weighed like 20lbs and was good as hell though. I remember the plain white cans and boxes of usda foods with the black letters. They had powdered eggs, cannned pork, beans and some other things I can't remember. |
yep yep. powdered milk too i think... that cheese made the best.com grilled cheese sammiches!
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jonesable
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:19pm |
ThoughtCouture wrote:
maysay1 wrote:
If a person is so disabled that they can't leave their house, carry groceries, or warm up food in a microwave...and they also have no caretaker to do it for them..then we've seriously failed them as a society if the only option to feed them is to allow them to order pizza from domino's and chinese food.
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that's not the only fast food options tho...and if they wanted that every now and then...i don't care... |
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ThoughtCouture
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:19pm |
maysay1 wrote:
If a person is so disabled that they can't leave their house, carry groceries, or warm up food in a microwave...and they also have no caretaker to do it for them..then we've seriously failed them as a society if the only option to feed them is to allow them to order pizza from domino's and chinese food.
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that's not the only fast food options tho...and if they wanted that every now and then...i don't care...
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petiteone29
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Posted: Jun 16 2014 at 1:21pm |
maysay1 wrote:
petiteone29 wrote:
I get your point maysay. But from what I most families receiving fs are working poor. They have jobs. They just need some help. So standing in a line every single day just doesn't seem reasonable. And having the government dictate what they have to eat instead of giving them the option of purchasing their own food just seems kind of degrading to me. |
Well, they wouldn't be standing in line every day. They'd be going to pick up a to go box of food, breakfast and lunch. Though ideally it would be box of real whole foods, not prepared meals.
The summer lunch programs here already provide food in a to-go manner. It's easy and fast so I know it can be done.
Being hungry is degrading. Eating food from the trash is degrading. Begging people for food is degrading. All of which I've done. Standing in a line and being given some food other people chose, not degrading at all. Not my favorite option, but not degrading.
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Point taken. I just feel like putting funds on a card is more convenient. But of course if there were no other options then I'm sure people would stand in those lines to feed their families. I would if I had to. But right now we have a system that works for those in need who aren't abusing it and buying beer and non food items.
OAN I always appreciate your honesty about things that you have been through.
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