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    Posted: Sep 04 2014 at 7:19am
does hiphop effect children more negatively then it did us years ago ? i heard this on the radio (the breakfast club), where charlamagne said music effects everything you do, my question is why would the negativity in hiphop be more detrimental to children today then it was to many of us in our youth ?

the ny style gangsta rap/hiphop that landscaped and was popular in the 90s   was a lot more violent, mysogynstic then it is today, no ? lil wayne is a skateboarder that talks about all the women he sleeps with and young thug wears dresses to concerts and calls his male friends lovers. wu tang on the other hand was talking about shoving a hot coat hanger in your ass.


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Charlamagne is a certified c*nt.

I agree with a ton of sh*t he says .. But lately he's been talking out of his ass ..

He's been pandering of late.

The Only argument he can throw is that hiphop is more accessible but the advent of the internet blows the presumed effects of hiphop on the psych out of proportion.

Hiphop like jazz is a scapegoat for people who don't want to address the root cause


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it's *affect* sorry...sorry..forgive me bunzCry


to answer the question though...no I don't think so

to blame pop culture is to gloss over many many more pressing social issues that are tied to child development such as poverty, racism (on all levels including internalised racism) etc.
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its more accessible and the content changed.
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lmao, i kept sounding out effect and affect, and for some reason i stuck with effect cause of a thread i saw on 50 cent messing up the word. dont judge me
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The difference between now and then is even back then, there was at least some substance being played. And they were bangers! They were hits.

I was driving the other day and randomly happened on my town's hip hop station. I thing Young Thug or Rich Homie Quan was playing. Yall. The entire song literally sounded like one elongated, slurred, word. I could barely decipher what he was saying to determine whether I should be offended or not. I wouldn't even consider a lot of what is put out as music. It's just a jumbled mess.
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I think hip hop does play a role in setting expectations for children. It helps illustrate social templates that kids want to follow. Environment and racism and poverty, yes all of that too, but it's worth mentioning that hip hop is very influential to growing people . Maybe more than any other music genre (aside from country) it teaches as well as entertains.  It teaches people how to talk, how to dress, how to think.




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I am sorry bunz but you and that damn avi is killing me CryLOL


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I absolutely think so. I used to say that the media doesn't raise your children, you do. But once they reach the age that they strive to be accepted by their peers, all that logic may not apply any more

My aunts a 5th grade teacher and one year she had to sit down with two of her black boys. They had called one of the darker girls ugly because of her skin tone in front of the entire class. The little girl was so hurt. My aunt said she had never seen a student cry like that. When she told the boys parents, one of them were shocked. They said they always taught their son that black women of all shades are beautiful and to respect them.

But when he gets to school and all his friends are reciting misogynistic lyrics - then what? I don't know how I'm going to buffer peer pressure when my son gets that age aside from talking his ear off about it.

I definitely agree that the content of music has changed. Conscious rap was popular and mainstream. Not so anymore.
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Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

I think hip hop does play a role in setting expectations for children.
It helps illustrate social templates that kids want to follow.
Environment and racism and poverty, yes all of that too, but it's worth
mentioning that hip hop is very influential to growing people . Maybe
more than any other music genre (aside from country) it teaches as well
as entertains.  It teaches people how to talk, how to dress, how to
think.




does it really?

or is it a reflection of the constant youthfulness of the culture?

its still very much influenced by inner city trends rather than the other way around
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