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Veemack
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 9:37am |
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First I will say that many black women do not embrace their own darker skinned sisters, but yet they are critical of "others".
Just let your favorite celebrity marry a darker skinned or even brown
skin woman and you all take to the forums and call her "basic" smh. So
start loving your own darker skin and the world will take
notice. The same way whites put having blonde hair and blue eyes on a
pedestal, black folks could do the same, so many of us have our own
prejudices against dark skin women. Many black women are delusional
about their own complexion. For example I spent many years working as a
professional make up artist, I learned early on that I could not allow
my black clients to see the shade of foundation I was putting on them,
because to often we got comments such as, "I am not that darK!" or "That is to dark".
So I made sure to hold my custom blending palette in a position that
they could not see the foundation until after it was applied ......Kelly
Rowland is not more successful due to the fact that she is not that
talented, she is a back up singer, point blank. She is the Mary Wilson
of this day. Her voice is very average, she is pretty but she
has no other "it" factor to be a huge star......Sad that some feel
Brandy is not huge, because she is. She has won awards, one of the few
young black girls to have her own sitcom and after all these years in
the industry, black and white people still know her by her first name.
She is a big star by many standards.....You all fuss about Beyonce and
Rhi, but regardless of their skin tone these two ladies are talented and
have a "wow" factor, they deserve their status. Say what you want about
Rhi but from Jay Z to LA Reid they have said she was a star from the
moment she walked into the office, she just had it.........For the
entertainment industry I consider anyone my complexion and darker to be
dark skinned. We have had plenty of singing stars who are darker skinned
and mainstream and many actresses who are darker skinned and
mainstream. And yes Diana Ross is considered darker skinned by industry
standards, but she has the "it" factor and she shines on screen. Motown
had plenty of dark skinned singers who were huge........ Jodi Watley,
Anita Baker were huge in their time, both a darker brown. Aretha
Franklin is dark brown she still gets respect today! Actually most of
the singers were brown skin in between. Whitney looks brown skin on
camera but irl she was much lighter. That is another point, you have to
know how to use correct lighting for black folks on film to get a true
complexion. You will be surprised how much lighter some of them are in
person..... Oprah always praises her light people because she says they
do such a good job on her, by industry standards she is darker
brown.....So it is not about white features are skin tone, it does come
down to talent that will keep you in the limelight and push you towards
superstar success. Beyonce is just talented, there has not been an artists male or
female that can give a performance they way she can in the past 10
years, whether her complexion is light or dark, she would of been
successful.....Gabby Union and Aisha Taylor both constantly praised by
the industry for their beauty, both of these ladies are dark skin to me.
You do not have to be blue black to be dark skin. I consider myself
dark skin.....So let us start embracing and praising our darker skinned
big nose sisters more then maybe we can point a finger at "others". Look at how many of you are critical of Rhi Rhi's nose, like what is the deal with that? Why do you have an issue with her nose? You have issues with it but expect "others" to not have an issue with it? Come on black women.
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 9:43am |
NS? AP? Who are these people?
purple.chuckz wrote:
Yes, Mama Tina could have said all of that, but Kelly definitely saw the way people responded and treated light-skinned Beyonce compared to herself.
I am reminded of Nina Simone's quote regarding Michael Jackson. I understand he bleached his skin because of vitiligo, but the multiple nose jobs and plastic surgery....
NS: Yes, greed has driven the world crazy. And I think I'm lucky that I have a place over here that I can call home. It's no surprise that Michael Jackson, the man that I adore the most in this world, has disappeared from the United STates. I distinctly remember meeting Michael on a plane many years ago when he was little, and I said to him, "Don't let them change you. You're black and you're beautiful." But of course, ha was influenced by his family and everybody else. And I don't mind if you say this, I think that the person who's responsible for Michael's tragedy is Quincy Jones [who co-produced his albums Thriller and Bad]. You can quote me.
AP: How is he responsible? NS: It was Quincy who married a girl from Sweden [Oolah]. And with Quincy with all them white women, poor little Michael didn't know what to do. Michael needed somebody to emulate, and I think he did everything that Quincy Jones told him to do. That is what I believe.
AP: Does Quincy Jones know you feel this way? NS: No, I don't think he knows.
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 9:57am |
NS=Nina Simone I think...
Alias_Avi wrote:
NS? AP? Who are these people?
purple.chuckz wrote:
Yes, Mama Tina could have said all of that, but Kelly definitely saw the way people responded and treated light-skinned Beyonce compared to herself.
I am reminded of Nina Simone's quote regarding Michael Jackson. I understand he bleached his skin because of vitiligo, but the multiple nose jobs and plastic surgery....
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AP: How is he responsible? NS: It was Quincy who married a girl from Sweden [Oolah]. And with Quincy with all them white women, poor little Michael didn't know what to do. Michael needed somebody to emulate, and I think he did everything that Quincy Jones told him to do. That is what I believe.
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NS is right
Every man that Michael looked up to was weak in the knees for White women (Quincy Jones, James Brown... I wonder if Jackie Wilson was)
Young Black men are so impressionable and thirsty for direction. I can see how that was so for Michael with his family dynamics not being the best
But I think, even more than being attracted to White women, Michael wanted to be around people who were child stars or former child stars. Of course at his time, most of them were gonna be White. But he clearly had issues of self-loathing pertaining to his race
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 10:56am |
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well....they were weak for white women but they did not change their physical appearance. why did he change his?
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IA with veemack on what she said about Kelly.
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 11:36am |
babyk94 wrote:
IA with veemack on what she said about Kelly. |
You read all that........
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 11:39am |
EPITOME wrote:
well....they were weak for white women but they did not
change their physical appearance. why did he change his? |
For
sure...there was something mentally going on with Michael. He started
doing nose jobs BEFORE the Pepsi fire which supposedly was the start of
his skin problems. Just because you marry/date out of your race
doesn't mean you suddenly do a massive "tear down" on your exterior to
match the race you're dating.
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Posted: Feb 17 2013 at 11:41am |
babyk94 wrote:
IA with veemack on what she said about Kelly. |
I disagree only in that, Kelly has so much more potential if she'd stop trying to be another pop starlet. She can do dance/house music tracks as the arrangements are so much more complimentary (and the receptive audience is much larger than just the US or the AA community) but she keeps trying to compete with Beyonce in the pop/r&b segment and so she stays looking like a back up singer who tried too hard. She should take a lesson from Deborah Cox--> another backup singer turned dance/house artist success story.
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