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 Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:42pm |
So as mine, which is why I'm very passionate about this. My father instilled in us very early a strong sense of black pride. I have never felt pressured or embarassed about anything related to my origins, quite the opposite. I was commenting on HAITIAN AMERICAN attitudes that I have witnessed. I am not american, so it doesn't relate to me. Maybe you're mad because I said this in the open, for everyone to see. I suppose one might feel that dirty laundry needs to not be exposed but I don't have that opinion.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:43pm |
i've never been embarrassed to be haitian...except when i first moved from Haiti to the US I was teased for my hair ribbons and bc i was skinny and they said i looked like i was from ethiopia...bishes 
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:46pm |
huh? no, i forgot what thread.. but i said i've never had to hide the fact that i was haitian. i was always proud of it, and y'all acted like y'all saw a unicorn or something.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:49pm |
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i've never been embarrassed to be haitian...except when i first moved from Haiti to the US I was teased for my hair ribbons and bc i was skinny and they said i looked like i was from ethiopia...bishes |
I hear you. If anything, I was arrogantly proud about it. I come from a long line of educated folks in Haiti and my dad did not leave for economic reason, but for political ones. Over here, when I was growing up, jamaicans would refer to us as "regulars" and we would laugh in their faces and call them illiterate drug dealers (No need for anyone to get mad, I know these are nothing but stereotypes. Unfortunately, black people do not form a cohesive unit, as you know.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:50pm |
Flowing-Ice wrote:
huh?no, i forgot what thread.. but i said i've never had to hide the fact that i was haitian. i was always proud of it, and y'all acted like y'all saw a unicorn or something. |
I can assure you it wasn't me!!! We have an amazing history, despite all the crap that's happening right now
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:50pm |
JoliePoufiasse wrote:
The whole thing is kinda sad, though. Which is why I always raise a bit of an eyebrow when I hear AA's say how welcoming they are of anyone black but that the opposite is not true. Not just haitians but a lot of non AA blacks experienced crazy discrimination at the hands of AA blacks. And you know it hurts more when it's other black people doing it. |
JP I'm that one AA that will welcome you maybe b/c of my up bringing...I am this way
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:53pm |
SamoneLenior wrote:
JoliePoufiasse wrote:
The whole thing is kinda sad, though. Which is why I always raise a bit of an eyebrow when I hear AA's say how welcoming they are of anyone black but that the opposite is not true. Not just haitians but a lot of non AA blacks experienced crazy discrimination at the hands of AA blacks. And you know it hurts more when it's other black people doing it. |
JP I'm that one AA that will welcome you
maybe b/c of my up bringing...I am this way |
LOL, thanks for the hugs and all, but I'm well over that. Besides I have a gang of AA cousins in law. I'm actually talking about the old days. Things have somewhat changed nowadays
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Jolie, you can be as educated and well-traveled as you want to be. That hasn't a thing to do with the veil of condescension your posts possess in this thread but I digress.There are plenty of people who bug me on the internet, however, I'll do what I please which includes voicing my distaste for whomever or whatever, whenever. If you don't like that I say what I'm thinking, maybe it's better that you click the 'x'.
It's funny you speak so much about Haitian American attitudes when you don't even live among us. Yes, for certain, there are those Haitians here who are not vocal about their ancestry for whatever reason. However in the past decade there's been an influx in the display of pride amongst my peers. You wouldn't know that because you don't live here year round and see it which makes me find it very odd that you talk about Haitian Americans like you know them oh so well. Many of us aren't like you're American cousins you mention earlier. I can't tell you how many times I hear Haitian teens speaking in Creole on the subway or in the streets be it chopped up or fluent.
My point is...I forgot my point but I will say you give HA a lot less credit than they deserve.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 7:57pm |
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isn't JP the one who's family moved from America back to Canada because of bullying issues and stuff like that? because they were haitian?
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 8:03pm |
ImThatDiva wrote:
Jolie, you can be as educated and well-traveled as you want to be. That hasn't a thing to do with the veil of condescension your posts possess in this thread but I digress.There are plenty of people who bug me on the internet, however, I'll do what I please which includes voicing my distaste for whomever or whatever, whenever. If you don't like that I say what I'm thinking, maybe it's better that you click the 'x'.
It's funny you speak so much about Haitian American attitudes when you don't even live among us. Yes, for certain, there are those Haitians here who are not vocal about their ancestry for whatever reason. However in the past decade there's been an influx in the display of pride amongst my peers. You wouldn't know that because you don't live here year round and see it which makes me find it very odd that you talk about Haitian Americans like you know them oh so well. Many of us aren't like you're American cousins you mention earlier. I can't tell you how many times I hear Haitian teens speaking in Creole on the subway or in the streets be it chopped up or fluent.
My point is...I forgot my point but I will say you give HA a lot less credit than they deserve.
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You know what's funny about this is that all I have to do on BHM is express an opinion that runs counter to what others think or be vocal about some issues to be accused of having a "veil of condescencion". Why is it condescending to be truthful about social issues that you have witnessed??? And where have I said that ALL haitian Americans were a certain way? I'm talking about things that I have seen in my numerous travels to NYC and I have a brother who's been living there for 23 years who has made the exact same comments. But all of a sudden, because I say something that could potentially cast some haitians in a bad light, I'm condescending??? Could it be that certain things are too embarassing for you to digest? I've always been a straightshooter and I like to discuss things that people would rather keep under the closet. Again, if you don't like it and it makes you feel some kind of way, click the x, cause I ain't going nowhere. Edit: LOl, actually I m for now cause Law & Order SVU is on. But you'll just have to deal with my presence. I know a lot of people here don't like me but I have my own motivations for posting on here and don't care about the naysayers
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