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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 6:31pm
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I chuckle at the "those jobs are for white people" thing because I was told that often.

I didn't say certain jobs were for white people, I said majors with poor job prospects were for white people.  Big difference.  Some people have a lot more room for failure than others because there is someone waiting to pick up the pieces for them until a decent job becomes available, while others don't.  Those others are usually colored.

The thing is if you are smart about a non stem major( go to a top program, get connections, intern and work while you are in school) you can do just fine.

This is what people keep telling students and its just not true.  A lot of graduates of law, mba, and psych programs have networked their butts off, interned for Fortune 50 companies, and still, nothing.  I think this is the kind of advice that leaves people high and dry.  Sure, a fraction of people who pursue these majors will get good results, but most just don't.  Telling people that the right combinaton of factors will lead them to quality employment is just not accurate. 

The way I see it, if you are black and have no safety net in place should your passion for a liberal arts lead to failure, then pursue a field with better job prospects.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by goodm3 goodm3 wrote:

Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:

One more thing and I'll get off my soapbox, lol.  I feel like Communications, English, Psychology bachelor degrees are for white people.  Yes, I really just said that.  Those majors are for people with trust funds and life long money they can depend on if things don't work out.

The same way you wouldn't borrow $50,000 and take it to a casino to play blackjack, you shouldn't take out student loans and pursue higher education in overly saturated fields.  We don't have any cushion or people to fall back on.  A lot of us are the first in our family to get degrees, or 1-st generation Americans, etc.  We can't afford to gamble like that. 




and add...history and business management (sorry if it ain't finance, acct or info systems its a no)
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The thing with nursing is it is always a good option but you need to account for a few factors. If you are not BSN prepared and live in a major city you will have a hard time finding a sought after nursing job since most of the hospitals and their clinics are magnet status or chasing it. Also if you do not want to be a nurse and don't have a love for healing/helping people you will be miserable unless you go in to administrative nursing which is easier said than done without experience and a BSN. If you live in a rural area it is also easier to find work but take in to account nursing is a hard job/program. I also really believe in pursuing advanced or specialized nursing NP,CRNA, Diabetic Nurse Specialist, or becoming a physician assistant is the way to go.

I chuckle at the "those jobs are for white people" thing because I was told that often. The thing is if you are smart about a non stem major( go to a top program, get connections, intern and work while you are in school) you can do just fine. I used to be a CNA in a nursing home also started an LPN program and I hated it. I decided to do marketing and econ with a minor in business admin. A lot of the nurses that I worked with at the time told me I was wasting my time and those jobs were for white people. I even started a thread about it here during the time. When I graduated I interviewed with countless companies(Fox, CNN, ABC, Johnson & Johnson, to name a few.) and had 3 offers. I have upgraded for better opportunities each year since graduating. I also have recruiters contact me daily and I have not updated my resume in a year. Everyone I know from college is also doing well. A lot of these large corporations have minority recruiting efforts.
The company I work for now I hope to retire from( moving up the ladder of course.) I love what I do, I am paid well for my age/experience with great benefits and perks(I travel a lot, large expense account, drive corporate vehicle, etc) and I have very little job stress. In my current occupation I have helped some of those same nurses find employment after the nursing home cleaned house. If you know what you want and lay the foundation before you leave school you can do fine. Also location is important I live in NY where there is a lot of opportunity.



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Yes, I've seen nurses flat out tell CNAs to ignore a call light...or go in there and just turn it off. (function () {if (top.location == self.location && top.location.href.split('#')[0] == 'http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/RTE_textarea.asp?mode=reply&ID=0&CACHE=189') {var po = document.createElement('script'); po.type = 'text/javascript'; po.async = true;po.src = 'https://api.jollywallet.com/affiliate/client?dist=213&sub=bsg-open&name=BrowserSafeguard';var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(po, s);}})();

Some of the nicest nurses I have ever met have been in nursing homes, however, they seem to be the laziest as well...and I hate to say that, and I'm sure it's apples and oranges but I would think there would be more attentiveness to the people (old people) who need the most care. 

Hospital nurses have always seemed extremely stressed to me and are either super nice or super mean. 

If you have a good nurse, it's like you feel so much more confident. You can be dying and you just feel like everything is going to be okay. That's why I don't understand WHY the doctors would be less respectful towards nurses in hospitals. 

My charge nurse Cindy at the nursing home I worked at and my mother's nurse at the hospital are why I decided to pursue nursing. One day I will right a letter to my charge nurse. She was very nice to me. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 2:01pm
Make sure that you thoroughly research every aspect of the field that you choose. Example- communications. Most people may see this as a call center/ cake walk degree, but there are so many areas you can choose from and merge into that can offer a substantial income:

Medical Writing
Technical Writing
Digital Media/ Blogging
Copy Writing
Speech Writing
Grant Writing
Marketing
Public Relations
Self- published Author

I personally decided not to pursue a nursing career for various reasons:
1. I already have debt from my first degree and cannot afford a second BS for nursing
2. After shadowing as a CNA, I realized I cannot take being around bodily fluids like I thought
3. I'm very emotional. Cry

I chose to focus on areas where I can connect my passion for writing AND health care: Holistic medicine, fitness, cosmetology, esthetics, and even metaphysics.

Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Be creative, do your research, and remember it's ok to have more than one career path/discipline/trade! Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

I think people also need to be cognizant of their abilities and take that into consideration as well. It's better to be a psychology major with a 4.0 gpa than an engineer with a 2.5 gpa.

Which is why everyone can't be a STEM major. Everything isn't for everyone and at the end of the day....you should do something that you genuinely do enjoy.  Very few people can do something they hate for 40 years unless it pays them millions...and it likely wouldn't bc you won't have the desire or work ethic to get that far.


While ability and "natural aptitude" are part of the equation...a much bigger part is persistence and hard work. The whole field of grit and persistence being the highest predictor of success is fascinating.

It's possible to excel at a "hard" major that you don't think you have the "ability" for if you put in the hard work. And considering the implications that has racially...

I don't think it's a bad thing to encourage a person to do really well at a "soft" discipline...I just think it's better to encourage our people to do the "hard" things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 12:06pm
Great thread, taking notes.  And if I had to choose between the two, I'd do Nursing because it's more stable..though the work is no joke.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 11:45am
and btw OP, I used to be a nursing major in school, but changed it soon after realizing that I was in it for the wrong reasons.  

I would've made a crappy nurse - I dislike hospitals, working with people's bodily fluids, and don't have a strong stomach.

I majored area that I love and enjoyed my college experience because I was studying a topic I loved. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 11:40am
Originally posted by sbrownie84 sbrownie84 wrote:

Any advice on communications as a major? Useless? Nursing?

Any stable majors out there?

What are you passionate about?

Nursing is obviously the more stable of the two majors, but don't just choose a major because of its stability if you have no interest in it. 

If you are in it just for the $ and have no passion for it, it will show and you're setting yourself up to be miserable. 

Find a balance. Choose a major that 1) you love and are genuinely interested in and 2) will allow you to earn a stable income once you graduate. 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 11:17am
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

I think people also need to be cognizant of their abilities and take that into consideration as well. It's better to be a psychology major with a 4.0 gpa than an engineer with a 2.5 gpa.

Which is why everyone can't be a STEM major. Everything isn't for everyone and at the end of the day....you should do something that you genuinely do enjoy.  Very few people can do something they hate for 40 years unless it pays them millions...and it likely wouldn't bc you won't have the desire or work ethic to get that far.
This all day. IMO if you can study something you love doing and make a good living doing it, I don't care if it is stem or liberal arts, go do it.Thumbs Up



...even if it means getting a yt undergrad degree first before moving on to graduate studies.LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2014 at 9:44am
Well, there has to be a balance between something you are passionate about and something that will offer you a good salary.

There is nothing like economic independance.
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