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Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

I know this might sound bad but I feel bad for the brother too. He is forever going to be labeled as suspect because of what his brother did. I'm sure people are going to target him with death threats. His life will never be the same again.

Why didn't the brother just kill himself?



I don't think it sounds bad...but then again I'm not a good judge of that.
Anyway, I think that's an interesting question. My guess is he was aiming for "infamy." I don't remember the Columbine shooting and I never saw a news broadcast about it, but they are constantly brought up when tragic massacres happen. Those two boys are infamous as the teenagers who shot up their high school. Even then (I guess this sounds "bad") they seemed to have a motive, which was to get revenge on their schoolmates. The asshole shooting up an elementary school doesn't seem to have a motive, other than notoriety for targeting children. I'm angry that people think they can "explain" this with OCD or autism. Since when does such a disorder turn people into killers? I mean the only explanation could be that he had schizophrenia and he thought the children were somebody/thing else. But since when do people give a fvck about psychology? It would be more logical for news stations to just report an evil man that committed an atrocity. But instead there will probably be detailed biography after biography of him. The reporting has been especially horrible with this, it's making me nauseous. People are repeating things that aren't even confirmed. Like what is the point of that? If THAT isn't negative, I certainly don't know what is. Especially since it's becoming obvious these sickos are trying to one up each other, crossing off ways to incite panic. I would love to know what goes through people's minds sometimes. And Jewels this was a general vent, not really directed towards you specifically.
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Did anyone hear that he had some sort of altercation with staffers the day before?

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You might be right Teendiva...my heart just breaks for the nation and our society as a whole. We all lost something yesterday. Our false sense of little children being safe has been wiped away. And that is a fearful proposition. Everyone has been taught to protect the innocent child and when you see people go against that (sexual abuse/ violence towards a child) it shakes your core beliefs.

As a country we've been faced with tremendous obstacles, both by an act of god and man made...
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Originally posted by Lilaca Lilaca wrote:

They have described him as a genius already......


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the more i began to read, the more i am like...what?

i was reading up on him and he's being repeatedly described as "mentally disturbed"...well, fck yes he's mentally disturbed to do something like that but let's not get the harps out and play the clinical diagnosis card.  Also, ive heard a few sites throw out autism.  the autism spectrum is WAY to wide to act like it has anything to do with what he did. 

then the Oregon Mall shooter articles are basically giving this man a god damn eulogy and talking about all his facebook quotes and how he had been abandoned by his parents and took care of himself, was a great friend, etc etc.

Trayvon Martin was a victim and i never heard any redeeming qualities about him presented on the news.  all i ever heard about was fcking weed.
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i am still crying today i looked at that baby Ana and lost it.. and FYI those kids in China that got stabbed not one of them are dead.. so there goes the reasoning on gun control not necessary.. its horrible as well to stab a child but at least they will live, these kids didn't have a chance.. a damn shame.. the closer it gets to giving those names and seeing faces i dread it.. I just read about a teacher that took a bullet and died for her kids.. Cry she jumped in front of her kids between the gunman and took the bullet for them.. wow! just wow.. and she was young herself, but she died for someone else's kids.. 

Claudia I'll be praying for your girls as well.. Hug


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Wonder you'll buss your brain trying to figure out why people demonize one killer and gives another who does things on a sicker/wider scale, basically a pass. I think it has more to do with fear. Fear that they have this type of animal within their race. It frightens them to think that they could be potentially identified as a debased animal devoid of the simplest human controls.

It is far easier to point out someone is an animal from another race and attribute it to them being that way because they're less human than they are...
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She threw herself in front of the gunman to save her students: Astonishing story of the brave teacher who died protecting children from 'deeply disturbed' killer

  • Victoria Soto, 27, sacrificed herself to save her first grade students by throwing her body in front of gunman Adam Lanza
  • She was a highly regarded member of staff, popular with students and known for chewing gum in class
  • Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were also killed execution-style after confronting Lanza

By MICHAEL ZENNIELESLIE LARSON and DAVID MCCORMACK

PUBLISHED: 01:48, 15 December 2012 UPDATED: 18:22, 15 December 2012

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A young teacher displayed astonishing bravery and sacrificed her life saving as many children in her first grade class as she could after she came face-to-face with gunman Adam Lanza.

Victoria Soto, 27, had worked at Sandy Hook Elementary for five years. Her final moments were spent ushering her students into a closet when Lanza entered her classroom and she tried her best to shield the children from the evil gunman. 

Soto was a highly regarded young teacher who was popular with her pupils. One young student, Jacob Riley, told Mailonline that Soto was known for chewing gum in class - something not usually allowed for teachers. He said he had often teased her about her habit and she had playfully teased him back. 

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Passion: Victoria Soto had a passion for education and always knew she wanted to teach

Passion: Victoria Soto had a passion for education and always knew she wanted to teach

Selfless: Victoria Soto threw herself in front of her first grade students and was killed as a result
Victoria Soto

Selfless: Victoria Soto threw herself in front of her first grade students and was killed protecting them

'She took her kids, put them in the closet and by doing so she lost her life protecting those little ones,' Soto's cousin, Jim Wiltsie, told ABC News

'She was found huddled over her children, her students, doing instinctively what she knew was the right thing. I'm just proud that Vicki had the instincts to protect her kids from harm,' he continued. 

'It brings peace to know that Vicki was doing what she loved, protecting the children and in our eyes she's a hero,' he added.

A deeply distraught 10-year-old boy who is a former student of Miss Soto described her as 'really nice and funny.'

 

Three teachers were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School trying to save their students from gunman Lanza, the son of a woman who worked at the school. 

The other two teachers have been identified as principal Dawn Hochsprung, 47, and school psychologist Mary Sherlach, 56.

Twenty-eight people died in the shooting rampage, including 20 young children between the ages of five and ten, alleged gunman Adam Lanza, who took his own life, and his mother, who was shot before the school massacre. 

When Lanza started firing at the school in suburban Newtown, Connecticut, some teachers dove under tables - but Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach didn't hesitate. 

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Hero: Vicki Soto, 27, was trying to shield her first grade students from the gunman when she was shot

VIDEO: Vicki Soto's cousin, Jim Wiltsie, tells ABC News about her courage... 

Murderer: Adam Lanza, killed himself after murdering more than two dozen others, including 20 school children

Murderer: Adam Lanza, killed himself after murdering more than two dozen others, including 20 school children

They ran into the hallway to confront the danger and were murdered execution-style as a result. 

Little did she know that Adam had already killed his mother at the home they shared nearby. He took three of her guns and used her car to drive to the school.

Diane Day, a school therapist, told the Wall Street Journal that she and several other teachers were in a meeting with Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach when the shooting began. 

'We were there for about five minutes chatting and we heard, "pop pop pop,"' she said. 'I went under the table.'

The principal and the school psychologist had other ideas. They jumped out of their seats and ran toward the sound of the gunfire. 

'They didn’t think twice about confronting or seeing what was going on,' Ms Day said. 

Rabbi Shaul Praver told MSNBC that Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach were killed execution-style. 

Tributes for all educators poured in on Friday night. Former school superintendent John Reed told the Connecticut Post that Mrs Sherlach was warm and cared deeply for her students.

'If there ever was a person, by qualifications and personality, to work with children, to be a school psychologist, it was Mary,' he said.

She was married with two grown daughters in their 20s and enjoyed gardening, reading and the theater, according to her school biography.

Heroic: Down Hochsprung confronted the gunman
School psychologist Mary Sherlach, 56, was shot dead by Adam Lanza while trying to save her students

Murdered: Principal Dawn Hochsprung, left, and school psychologist March Sherlach, right, were killed after confronting the Connecticut school gunman 

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Grieving: Jim Wiltsie, the cousin of victim Vicki Soto, said the family finds peace knowing that in her last moments Vicki was caring for her students

Devastation: Sandy Hook Elementary School, home to 700 students, was attacked by a crazed gunman on Friday

Devastation: Sandy Hook Elementary School, home to 700 students, was attacked by a crazed gunman on Friday

Friends and neighbors said it was immediately clear to everyone she knew that she loved her students and her school.

'I don’t think you could find a more positive place to bring students to every day,' she had recently told a local newspaper.

Another tale of heroism came from an eight-year-old student who said a teacher pulled him from the hallway as bullets rang out. 

'I saw some of the bullets going down the hall that I was right next to and then a teacher pulled me into her classroom,' the boy told CBS News

'It sounded like someone was kicking a door,' he said of the piercing sound of the gunfire. 

His relieved mother agreed, saying that the teacher saved her son's life.

Mourning: Newtown residents turned out for memorial ceremonies on Friday night across the city - including at Lima Roman Catholic Church

Mourning: Newtown residents turned out for memorial ceremonies on Friday night across the city - including at Lima Roman Catholic Church



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248477/She-threw-gunman-save-students-Astonishing-story-brave-teacher-died-protecting-children-deeply-disturbed-killer.html#ixzz2F9E5rrMV 
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Autism has nothing to do with becoming a psychotic mass murderer. Parents with autistic children have enough to deal with without having the disorder demonized by this tragedy.
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They are saying on MSNBC that the shooter may have had a personality disorder and/or autism......
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