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Originally posted by Ds2nice Ds2nice wrote:


I got into a huge debate with a Haitian friend that refuses to acknowledge that he's black/African decent because he has a brown paper bag complexion.  To add more insult to injury, he actually says he's fair skin.  However when a "black" opportunity pops up, he wants to jump on the black bandwagon.  SMH.
 
You have to realize that you can't teach or save everyone.  Some people are just too deep in their own stupidity or ignorance to know any better. 
 
 


I've met the type. There is a mulatto elite in Haiti that has had a stronghold on the economy (although they have been challenged a great deal throughout history, not all of them are mulatto) but lost control of the political sphere. Some of these people (not all) are basically light-skinned blacks that intermarried for generations (kind of like the Creoles in the U.S.). The ones who hold that mentality are seriously messed up in the brain.
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Originally posted by HaitianDiva64 HaitianDiva64 wrote:

Originally posted by Ds2nice Ds2nice wrote:


I got into a huge debate with a Haitian friend that refuses to acknowledge that he's black/African decent because he has a brown paper bag complexion.  To add more insult to injury, he actually says he's fair skin.  However when a "black" opportunity pops up, he wants to jump on the black bandwagon.  SMH.
 
You have to realize that you can't teach or save everyone.  Some people are just too deep in their own stupidity or ignorance to know any better. 
 
 


Yup, I hate haitians like this. Quick to shout out any dominicn or french in them but want to be down in private or when the money comes in.

I want to ask these latinos what is black to them? What does it meaan to them


Girl, I have stories...
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But coming back to Brazil, I think they have more of a black consciousness, especially in recent years, decade. They have been pushing for rights. Rummie and Marcelo probably know more about that.

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I hope the muscles surrounding his lungs cease to function during his sleepAngry
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Originally posted by mizzsandra00 mizzsandra00 wrote:

Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Not surprised as this is a problem throughout Latin America but compared to those messed up Dominicans, afro-Brazilians are like Eldgridge Cleaver, lol.

I really wanna check out the DR soon cuz I hear this a lot, folks as dark as Akon talking about "I no black papi"

I met a chick like this......black as Akon......4bzzzzz hair and she refuse to believe she was black......my yt teacher was like oh honey your blackLOLLOLLOL.....they yt was so funny.....color specialist.....all black client list and Hungarian gypsy.....I knew we would be good when she started talking about ACV and bentonite clay......LOL
Dead @ How Akon is used to describe a type of dark black. You can still be blackety black black and have mixed ancestry.... Dead

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Are you guys aware that now in Brazil whites are the majority of the populationQuestion
91 million Brazilians stated they are white in the 2010 census. In Brazil there's no "one drop rule" that makes one person black if any of their ancestors is black; if they look white, they are white.

Only 15 million said they are black.....

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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

But coming back to Brazil, I think they have more of a black consciousness, especially in recent years, decade. They have been pushing for rights. Rummie and Marcelo probably know more about that.




looooooooooooooooooool what rights????


eta: are you guys also aware that in Rio de Janeiro, which has a pretty big black population, black teens are forbidden to go to the mall? it is called "rolezinho" which means kinda like "hanging out".
We all know that teens love to go to the mall just 'cause, and in Brazil is the same, but since there were too many black teens going in groups to the mall, the merchants got scared and with that they forbid this kind of activity - but is not a problem if the kids are white and/or are wearing uniform from private school (which means they have money).



(cops harrassing poor teens - Sao Paulo)


(do you guys notice the cop chose the only black nearby to hit?)


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^^^^so now those kids are fighting back and making HUGE rolezinhos, which invites hundreds of people to malls to make a point, which leads to fights with cops, arrests, plus it makes society more angry at them, because they are seem as the problem.
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^^Yes I heard about that. But it was my understanding that an affirmative action program for university admission has finally been instituted and that it took some pushing for this to occur. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying they are not oppressed. they clearly are. But there seems(?) to be more of an afro-consciousness movement over there? As if they are waking up? I've seen documentaries on this. I couldn't tell you for sure as I don't know Brazil like that but that was my impression. I don't get the sense that they are as much in denial? Maybe I'm wrong. I'm comparing to what I know of the DR, I guess...

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@JP - University admission recently instituted? Oh no, that exists for over 10 years, it translates to quotes, lol, but it is called Cotas, and blacks have somewhat a priority, and so do Native Brazilians and disabled people.

Basically when they take the college test (kinda of SAT), there is some space reserved for them, and when it first came out, many people were furious because they said that if their kid got an 8 and a black kid got a 7 and got in, it was wrong and blablabla.

It is still around, and I bet a lot of whites who don't look black at all but their grandmother was black do use the cotas in order to have higher chance to get in universities.
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