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Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by Rumbera Rumbera wrote:

Some latinos will claim there African heritage but don't want to be called black.


meh that's fine

if black means AA to them then I can see why they don't claim it

I only claim AA, because well I am AA


see the problem i always seem to get stuck with is that people keep trying to convince me that their countries dont see color.  its like people come to america and all of sudden no racial divide occurs in their country.
 
There is no Latin America country that doesn't see color...Cubans will try to sale you that ish but there is blatant in your face racism in Cuba... It's the same song
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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

Originally posted by goodm3 goodm3 wrote:

Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Not surprised as this is a problem throughout Latin America but compared to those messed up Dominicans, afro-Brazilians are like Eldgridge Cleaver, lol.


I really wanna check out the DR soon cuz I hear this a lot, folks as dark as Akon talking about "I no black papi"


pretty much... 

someone was trying to explain to my friend while i was there that it had something to do with the Haitians...but the explanation was so long and drawn out I just started to gaze at the scenery. 


I'm not too familiar with the history between DR and Haiti but I read something about there being a massacre of Haitians in DR and even dark skinned dominicans getting caught up in it. Since then dark skinned dominicans like "I no black papi"


That is correct, except for the "since then" part. They have had a hatred of anything remotely black/African throughout their history, way before The parsley massacre. When Haiti became independent, there was very legitimate worry that the Europeans would come back and bring back slavery by going through the DR. So Haiti invaded the Dr for a period of 22 years and abolished slavery on that part of the island. For the disenfranchised, that was actually a good move. Some non-indoctrinated Dominicans recognize that Haiti was instrumental in getting rid of slavery (it was still there, even though Dominicans will claim that they had completely transitioned to a ranch/cattle type economy instead of a plantation economy (they tend to do a certain amount of slavery denial, too). This is where the hatred of Haitians come from. The whites at the time were salty as hell about it and didn't accept that black people would occupy them. Coupled with that the visceral hatred and disdain with anything related to Africa and a self-hating half Haitian dictator (ironically) who ordered the Parsley massacre in the first place and tried to whiten the race, and there you go.

I need to read up on Brazil. I have some knowledge but not enough.

Damn. Props on the summary. I'll read more on this.
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I was about to come in here mad as hell yall were claiming Neymar as black but after seeing his childhood pictures.....that nicca is black. 
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Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

I was about to come in here mad as hell yall were claiming Neymar as black but after seeing his childhood pictures.....that nicca is black. 


you let a box relaxer fool youLOL
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I got into a huge debate with a Haitian friend that refuses to acknowledge that he's black/African decent because he has a brown paper bag complexion.  To add more insult to injury, he actually says he's fair skin.  However when a "black" opportunity pops up, he wants to jump on the black bandwagon.  SMH.
 
You have to realize that you can't teach or save everyone.  Some people are just too deep in their own stupidity or ignorance to know any better. 
 
 
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Dominicans celebrate their independance drom Haitians, not Spain.

The hate for haitians in that country is sooo real. I've heard first account horror stories and dominicans my age 24 just laughing at the vile things done
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Originally posted by Ds2nice Ds2nice wrote:


I got into a huge debate with a Haitian friend that refuses to acknowledge that he's black/African decent because he has a brown paper bag complexion.  To add more insult to injury, he actually says he's fair skin.  However when a "black" opportunity pops up, he wants to jump on the black bandwagon.  SMH.
 
You have to realize that you can't teach or save everyone.  Some people are just too deep in their own stupidity or ignorance to know any better. 
 
 


Yup, I hate haitians like this. Quick to shout out any dominicn or french in them but want to be down in private or when the money comes in.

I want to ask these latinos what is black to them? What does it meaan to them
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Ain't that some sh*t?!? LOL

Ds2nice is right, some people are too far gone
The culture of self-hatred is too deep in Dominican culture to save it

Originally posted by HaitianDiva64 HaitianDiva64 wrote:

Dominicans celebrate their independance drom Haitians, not Spain.

The hate for haitians in that country is sooo real. I've heard first account horror stories and dominicans my age 24 just laughing at the vile things done
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