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    Posted: Feb 13 2014 at 12:28pm
Does a terminally ill child in intolerable pain have a right to die?

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Protesters turned out again in Belgium ahead of Thursday's parliamentary vote to abolish age restrictions applying to its laws on euthanasia.

The proposed legislation which will extend the right to ask to die to under 18 year-olds has aroused strong opinions across the country.

While some fear vulnerable children may be talked into an irreversible choice others see its as a merciful release for terminally ill youngsters.


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Belgium's Parliament will vote on that difficult question Thursday.

The euthanasia bill is widely supported -- but has stoked fierce opposition from critics.

Belgium legalized euthanasia in 2002 for those in "constant and unbearable physical or mental suffering that cannot be alleviated." Minors were included in the original proposals but were left out of the final legislation for political reasons.

The new bill would extend the "right to die" to those under the age of 18 only under certain strict conditions, including that the child is judged able to understand what euthanasia means. Consent of parents or guardians must also be given.

If approved by the Parliament in Brussels, the bill will go to the king to be signed into law.

Mother Linda van Roy, from Schilde, Belgium, is among those backing the bill.

She could do nothing to help her terminally ill baby, Ella-Louise, in the last hours of her life.

Ella-Louise, who was only 10 months old when she died just over two years ago, would never have qualified for euthanasia.

But her mother had to watch as her baby -- who had Krabbe disease, a rare and terminal genetic mutation which damages the nervous system -- slowly faded away under palliative sedation, food and liquid withheld so her suffering was not further prolonged.

Children should 'have a choice'

"That whole period of sedation, you always need to give more and more medication, and you start asking questions. And you say, 'What's the use of keeping this baby alive?'" van Roy said.

She wishes she could have administered a fatal dose of medication to make the end of her daughter's short life come more quickly.

That's why she's campaigning for a change to Belgium's euthanasia laws, to give the choice of ending their suffering to older children whose bodies are wracked with pain.

"We want for those children to be able to talk about euthanasia and to ask those questions and if they really want to say, 'Stop, this is it, I don't want it any more,' that they can have a choice," van Roy said.

Pediatrician Gerlant van Berlaer, from the Free University Brussels, is among the medical professionals backing the change in the law.


"Doctors do terminate lives, of children as well as adults," he said. "But today it is done in, let's say, a 'grey zone,' or in the dark, because it is illegal," he said.

But others question whether children have the capacity to take this most final of decisions for themselves.

Palliative nurse Sonja Develter, who specializes in end-of-life care for children, told CNN she is concerned that giving children a choice would mean they made decisions based on what they thought their families wanted to hear, and that this would be a terrible strain for children who may already feel they are a burden to their caregivers.

'If you leave, you leave forever'

Izabela Sacewicz has Huntington's Disease, a neurological disease which drastically reduces life expectancy in children.

Eight years ago she was a bubbling, active child -- top of her class, according to her mother Iwona. Having recently turned 18, she can't eat or walk without help. She finds it difficult to speak, but her mind is still her own.

In a painful exchange, her mother explains to her what euthanasia is, using the simplest terms she can think of.

"Euthanasia means if you are unwell, you are so unhappy that you don't want to stay here, you want to leave, to go high up to God," she says. "But if you leave, you leave forever."

Izabela listens, the strain showing on her face.

"Do you think it's good, or not good?" her mother asks.

"It's not good," she replies, the words barely audible.

Iwona says that with enough support, no parent would think of euthanasia -- and that Belgium's lawmakers should instead focus on providing better support for families caring for terminally ill children.

Supporters insist the new law is more a matter of principle than anything else -- and that only a very small number of children will ever, in practice, ask to end their lives through euthanasia.

Under its strict guidelines, no doctor would be forced to carry out euthanasia against his or her will and the child would always have the option of palliative treatment.

A child psychologist or psychiatrist would have to examine the child to make sure that he or she is capable of making the decision.

In the Netherlands, where children have been able to request euthanasia with parental consent since 2002, only five children have ever done so.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lilaca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 13 2014 at 12:31pm
hmmmm

Grey area.

If a child is taught about death at young age and understands there is no coming back....actually i really don't know.

Touchy subject.

Death is such a taboo


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Not on a hospital's watch, no. I don't even believe adults should be able to make that decision for a hospital. The purpose of health care is to [try to] sustain life for as long as possible. 
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NO just NO.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote QueenBee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 13 2014 at 3:55pm
Yes. The child should be evaluated without their parents for their interpretation and understanding process of palliative care and death. Honestly, even children get tired of suffering and go through the stages of grief. Some children accept the process and are okay with dying.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (4) Thanks(4)   Quote tatee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb 13 2014 at 3:59pm
ive been in that kind of pain where you pray for death.  i couldnt imagine that being my everyday existence.  its kinds strange that an adult can end their suffering but a child cant.
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I foresee hypocrisy in this thread.
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Yes. We should all have that right. I'm currently watching my father descend into Alzheimer's. He's now blind, he's wearing a diaper, he has to be fed like a child, he can hardly remember anything and can't even hold up any kind of conversation anymore. This was a man I once feared. In one of his lucid moments several months ago (this doesn't happen much anymore), he told my mom that if he had a gun right now, he would shoot himself in the head. I want him to be released.

So yes, even with children, it can get to a point where it's just too much.

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Does children in intolerable pain in Haiti and many war torn countries in Africa have a right to live?


Why no one is protesting for them? Some people got nothing better to do....

And to answer the thread's question, they have a right to die, but children would probably say "I want to die" when they are in extreme pain after chemo... and they could have lived longer had they not asked for euthanasia, so I am sorry, I am against it, just like I am against sex change under age of 18.
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