Aint Sheit Daddy or No Daddy?

nitabug wrote: naturesgift wrote: Fathers are very important, NO one is a perfect parent, if he want to be in the child's life then let him just make sure she is taking care of herself and not letting her emotions get the best of her at what expense?

At every expense! with the exception of emotional or physical abuse! Whatever the circumstances of the past relationship if there are efforts to be made on your part then do them. Yes there is anger, resentment, but it was your choice to make a child with this man. There must have been some good in him and hopefully its still there. So if you need to have visitation by a neutral party then do that if you know your (anger) is too much to see him. From what I see most mothers feel like what the father is doing is NOT ENOUGH! for some it will never be ENOUGH! if there is an opportunity to encourage a relationship then I think she should! In this case there must be because OP wrote there is....

Both is bad cause the child still has no father.

naturesgift wrote: I wonder how many people here know what its like growing up without a father. I also wonder if that affects their views on fatherhood, Love relationships, and parenting. We are quickly becoming a society the seems to value mothers over fathers and children need both...

Of course it does.  That's why I said the child is screwed either way.  I'm friends with a couple women who look put together on the outside and seem to have their lives together on paper.  In reality, the effect of growing up with a father causes them to make terrible decision in terms of the kind of men they date and their expectations of relationships. 

Everyone needs a mother and a father.  The fact that this is debated in some circles speaks volumes. 

No daddy is a better option

Seems like people with the ain't sh*t daddys come out with more problems