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I really think my ancestors were Lucumi just because of the traditions that have been passed down.
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Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

No can do.


Why not? It's historical knowledge


Closed mind can't be fed

Man look.
I don't know anything about African history other than Egypt.

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Originally posted by Rumbera Rumbera wrote:


I really think my ancestors were Lucumi just because of the traditions that have been passed down.


Do you have any idea in which modern day African country the Lucumi lived? I'm gonna research it but just in case...

P.S: It seems that the word Lucumi is specific to afro-Cubans, rather than an African ethnic group. I think the ethnic group would be Yoruba, which would mean places like modern-day Benin and Nigeria, for instance

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Thought you may find this interesting JP!
Cabildos de nación
were African ethnic associations created in Cuba.Cabildos were institutions that made possible the conservation of the idiosyncrasy, religion and culture of the African nations in Cuba. The songs, dances, and drum rhythms that were played for African deities in a land that was so hostile to the Africans slaves were the mechanism by which slaves were able to keep alive their Africanness and resist Spanish cultural hegemony.
Name of CabildoAfrican region of originEthnic group of origin
AbakuáNigeria/CameroonEkpe
MandingaSierra LeoneMalinké
GangaSierra LeoneMalinké
MinaGold CoastAkan
LucumiBenin and NigeriaYoruba
CarabalisBiafraIgbo - Efik
MacauasMozambiqueMakua
CongoAngolaBantu
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¨^^^ I love it! And I was right about the Lucumi, from the chart you posted. I'm sure there's a lot of Yorubas on this board, considering the number of Nigerian posters.
I'm researching this stuff in my spare time. It seems like it's the same countries that come up over and over all over the black diaspora. I'm trying to figure out if it's the same ethnic groups as well or if they're more diversified depending on who the colonizers were.

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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Originally posted by trudawg trudawg wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

No can do.


Why not? It's historical knowledge


Closed mind can't be fed


Man look.
I don't know anything about African history other than Egypt.



It's highly unlikely that any of your ancestors came from Egypt, though. Lack of intellectual curiosity...
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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Rumbera Rumbera wrote:


I really think my ancestors were Lucumi just because of the traditions that have been passed down.


Do you have any idea in which modern day African country the Lucumi lived? I'm gonna research it but just in case...

P.S: It seems that the word Lucumi is specific to afro-Cubans, rather than an African ethnic group. I think the ethnic group would be Yoruba, which would mean places like modern-day Benin and Nigeria, for instance
 
Exactly  ! I should've been more clear(. From my research most likely Southerwestern Nigeria.


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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

 
It's highly unlikely that any of your ancestors came from Egypt, though. Lack of intellectual curiosity...

No sh*t my ancestors didn't come from Egypt.
I have no idea where they came from.
And that's not my fault.
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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

¨^^^ I love it! And I was right about the Lucumi, from the chart you posted. I'm sure there's a lot of Yorubas on this board, considering the number of Nigerian posters.
I'm researching this stuff in my spare time. It seems like it's the same countries that come up over and over all over the black diaspora. I'm trying to figure out if it's the same ethnic groups as well or if they're more diversified depending on who the colonizers were.
 
If youtube a Lucumi ceremoney and a Yoruban Nigerian one it looks like one in the same.
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I had a DNA test done.  Recently, ancestrydna.com has done a much better job about being specific in terms of origin, but as for my African ancestors, I would at least like to get a further breakdown as to the ethnic group I belong to.

The actual results surprised me because I was expecting almost exclusively Mali/Ghana origins.  The breakdown was actually as follows:

Cameroon/ Congo  22%
Mali                         17%
Nigeria                    14%
Ivory Coast/Ghana 14%

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