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the issue is people who are offended when you don't want to subscribe to their labels.

If you chose to describe yourself as a "black artist" Kudo's.
But when others define you its often dependent on their definition right.

Whats your definition got to do with me? (just speaking in general) Why is their an assumption that I don't know as much about what it means to be black as you do.  

I think thats where we run into unnecessary internal conflict.
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Originally posted by bg bg wrote:

"How do u feel about that? Is it equality or ignorance?"

i wouldn't necessarily say its ignorance, probably more like assimilation?

imo there is nothing wrong with being a 'black anything', it should be a sense of pride that comes along with it versus a sense of shame

there are reasons to label yourself as a 'BLACK WHATEVER' in this country considering our history here...

you can TRY to alleviate your color from the equation but white's NEVER will...so turn that negative into a positive and be proud of your racial identity...its the one thing i like about Jews Stern Smile


Under this scenario… I don't think its about Color.
Its not really about a reactionary response to white peoples ignorance and negativity towards blacks either.

I think in a lot of cases… its really about ART.
Like.. I know people who really take their Art seriously… music production, writing, fine arts… because they live in that world... They create for that world… and they want that world to represent them before anything else.

For a serious artist its not a game… thats why some of them are called starving artist.


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I don't feel the need to have a measure my blackness competition, do what works for you.
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It's a catch 22 tho. If u want to be identified as a black poet then u will only be compared to other black poets. A lot of artists don't want their work put in a box like that. I don't see someone like Spike Lee and think "he's a great black director". I think "He's a great director". 
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Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

It's a catch 22 tho. If u want to be identified as a black poet then u will only be compared to other black poets. A lot of artists don't want their work put in a box like that. I don't see someone like Spike Lee and think "he's a great black director". I think "He's a great director". 


That's like saying you can't have a BET award and a grammy at the same time. This is what is killing what we know as black culture and making it ripe for the taking. 

There used to be a time, when rappers and r&b artists made music for black people. those were the glory days, those days we had black artists holding the number 1 spot on the billboard. now that black artists want to be mainstream, they opened the door for others to come and say "why can't i?". we went an entire year without a black artist in the number 1 spot in music. there is no coincidence that black music and culture has and will be continue to be stolen from us. we're too busy trying to be race neutral. 

Toni Morrison is black. I would consider her a black author if anyone asks. Why? Because her books are about black culture and feature black characters. Toni Morrison also has a pulitzer prize in fiction. Her identity is intertwined with her craft, she wouldn't be who she was as an author if she disregarded what she brought to the table through her experience as a black woman. One interesting thing about her book Beloved. White people did not catch on to her at first, it was the black community of book critics that raised her voices when she was being looked over by the establishment. 


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I was saying a person who feels like they have to qualify their position as a professional or whatever by objectifying their race or who feel like they are defined by it has more problems than a little bit...
As a human being we are diverse you let your work speak for its self by trying to EXPLAIN away your blackness make you seem a bit silly IMO!  
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yeah….. imho I don't think you can steal black culture… like steal it.

Secondly even if you could.., we will always come up with something new and better.







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Its been happening forever- I think she means steal the credit 
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it is weird to me.

I am proud to be black though
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Originally posted by naturesgift naturesgift wrote:

Its been happening forever- I think she means steal the credit 

+ bastardize and redefine so it no longer resembles what it used to be. 
we will see when the top 10 rap albums are all clear folk.
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