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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :    pattigurlatl wrote:  OoDles...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=53345">OoDles O</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" alt="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pattigurlatl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br />Heres a question for you Patty and anyone else:<div><br></div><div>Imagine that Women some how some way were granted complete and total authority on all things that featured female sexuality(movies/ ads/ TV/ music/ Music videos ect). There would always be a woman who had the final say and there would be some sort of tax that would be implemented where the revenue would go towards female empowerment organizations ect... essentially all the money that is generated now would benefit woman as a whole.</div><div><br></div><div>Would you be OK with this hypothetical scenario?&nbsp;</div><div>Good Idea?</div></td></tr></table>I've never had a problem with sexuality. I have a problem with using it for the sake of the male ego or male dollar when statistics show it doesn't count. It makes us robotic.&nbsp;<br><br>If you use sexuality for empowerment, then its all good IMO. As long as it doesn't involve abusing someone of course. But if it is used for financial gaine, IE, prostitution, P O R N...I have no problem with it. Bet even in those industries, it is the male that is catered to...not the women. But when you have books like 50 Shades of Grey and anything Zane writes become best sellers, you have to know we have power and the power is in catering to what we want to see, hear and read.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I hear you...</div><div>I just wonder who would be the authority on what meets the right "empowerment" criteria ... it would be women but Women aren't one monolithic group...</div><div><br></div><div>Its sad to say.. but when you turn something into a business.. theres a point when it reaches a level where higher profit is more important than ethics .</div><div><br></div><div>I dont see this changing with women at the helm&nbsp;</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by OoDles O - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:55pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :    melikey wrote:men sell sex...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:34pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by melikey" alt="Originally posted by melikey" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>melikey wrote:</strong><br /><br />men sell sex just as much. the bar is much lower for them so we tend to ignore . usher takes off his shirt and humps air all the time. &nbsp;<div>i think the superbowl was a tremendous night for black women. i am not going to fuel all the hate being thrown their way.</div><div>wait till lady gaga is invited. i'm all over this thread. &nbsp;<img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /><div><br></div></div></td></tr></table>well not over me because i don't do madonna 2.0.3 rev. 4<br><br>she literally is a Firefox update.<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :     OoDles O wrote:Heres a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br />Heres a question for you Patty and anyone else:<div><br></div><div>Imagine that Women some how some way were granted complete and total authority on all things that featured female sexuality(movies/ ads/ TV/ music/ Music videos ect). There would always be a woman who had the final say and there would be some sort of tax that would be implemented where the revenue would go towards female empowerment organizations ect... essentially all the money that is generated now would benefit woman as a whole.</div><div><br></div><div>Would you be OK with this hypothetical scenario?&nbsp;</div><div>Good Idea?</div></td></tr></table>I've never had a problem with sexuality. I have a problem with using it for the sake of the male ego or male dollar when statistics show it doesn't count. It makes us robotic. <br><br>If you use sexuality for empowerment, then its all good IMO. As long as it doesn't involve abusing someone of course. But if it is used for financial gaine, IE, prostitution, P O R N...I have no problem with it. Bet even in those industries, it is the male that is catered to...not the women. But when you have books like 50 Shades of Grey and anything Zane writes become best sellers, you have to know we have power and the power is in catering to what we want to see, hear and read.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by pattigurlatl - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:33pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :   nitabug wrote:So if guys are...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=21069">teendiva</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:16pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />So if guys are the problems, and the way guys are judging women is the problem...<br /><br />raise your damn sons better. while watching the superbowl with her daughter, she could have made it a teachable moment for her son.<br /><br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /> <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=21069">teendiva</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:14pm<br /><br />What is her point? ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl : Heres a question for you Patty...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=53345">OoDles O</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:14pm<br /><br />Heres a question for you Patty and anyone else:<div><br></div><div>Imagine that Women some how some way were granted complete and total authority on all things that featured female sexuality(movies/ ads/ TV/ music/ Music videos ect). There would always be a woman who had the final say and there would be some sort of tax that would be implemented where the revenue would go towards female empowerment organizations ect... essentially all the money that is generated now would benefit woman as a whole.</div><div><br></div><div>Would you be OK with this hypothetical scenario?&nbsp;</div><div>Good Idea?</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :    OoDles O wrote:  pattigurlatl...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 7:01pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" alt="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pattigurlatl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br />money is king.<div>and generating revenue is the goal</div><div>men pimp women.. women pimp women..</div><div>aint no money in pimping men.</div><div><br></div><div>Thats why Donkey/stallion booty videos are made &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>lol</div></td></tr></table>No one is disputing that as fact.&nbsp;The problem is that it is unnecessarily systemic&nbsp;and the only people that can change that are women. The reason why they don't IMO is because it is ingrained. It is inline with women who think it's ok to pimp their own daughters. Man comes first.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yeah, but theres no "real" incentive for people to do away with these old, possibly obstructive views.&nbsp;</div><div>As long as it generates Money then you can place any old cog in the system (man/Woman/Alien) as long as they continue producing revenue.</div><div><br></div><div>I think Wrestling is a good example of this. Typically the woman is this hot babe who's</div><div>soul purpose is to look good .. They'll let her wrestle cause 2 girls wrestling is good but she will exhibit every stereotype known to stimulate a males interest physically</div><div><br></div><div>On the flip side.. The guys who are the most successful have to play into some sort of Super Macho Gladiator type of role... again this is done to appeal to the larger male audience cause they are the ones spending money.</div><div><br></div><div>Women and Men kill themselves to look good for each other</div><div><br></div><div>With that said Football has the highest female viewer ship among team sports. I'm pretty sure that the game is appealing but it doesn't hurt (for women I'd think) that these dudes are running around in tights battling to the death like gladiators. These football players are gonna have all sorts of issues neurologically but who cares cause it makes too much damn money!</div></div></td></tr></table>You're right Ooodles. Football is a great example of it going both way although it does still tilt towards men's opinions and viewership. I do think we're breaking barriers at least in the female and homosexual male viewership with Calvin Klein's first SB ad. I think it is a slow process and maybe women will eventually unbind themselves from the chains that centuries of sexism bound us to.<br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=15703">melikey</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:59pm<br /><br />men sell sex just as much. the bar is much lower for them so we tend to ignore . usher takes off his shirt and humps air all the time. &nbsp;<div>i think the superbowl was a tremendous night for black women. i am not going to fuel all the hate being thrown their way.</div><div>wait till lady gaga is invited. i'm all over this thread. &nbsp;<img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :    OoDles O wrote:   nitabug...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=38191">nitabug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:55pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br />I do not watch football for any aesthetic or sexual reasons at all.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I only listen to Beyonce because shes a great singer</div></td></tr></table><br><br>She isn't <i>that</i> great of a singer, it does help that she is pretty. Alot of her songs are trash. <br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl : I disagree. I personally felt...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=66119">Midna</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:53pm<br /><br />I disagree. I personally felt that entire performance, although a display of overt sexuality was also a display of power. Let's be honest, the entire performance was crafted in a way that not only worshiped Beyonce as its powerful center, but also&nbsp;worshiped&nbsp;the women contributing their talents.<div><br></div><div>It was a multi-racial all female cast making that magic work and it was great. Beyonce was the main center, yes. But she also passed the spotlight onto that badass female guitarist and her former fellow sisters she performed for many years with as Destiny's Child.</div><div><br></div><div>I cannot see that amazing set as some kind of submissive sex show. If anything, I thought it was the complete opposite.&nbsp;<img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /></div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :    nitabug wrote:I do not watch...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=53345">OoDles O</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:53pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br />I do not watch football for any aesthetic or sexual reasons at all.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I only listen to Beyonce because shes a great singer</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=38191">nitabug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:49pm<br /><br />I do not watch football for any aesthetic or sexual reasons at all.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sex, Shame, and the Superbowl :   pattigurlatl wrote:  OoDles...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=53345">OoDles O</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:47pm<br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" alt="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pattigurlatl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br />money is king.<div>and generating revenue is the goal</div><div>men pimp women.. women pimp women..</div><div>aint no money in pimping men.</div><div><br></div><div>Thats why Donkey/stallion booty videos are made &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>lol</div></td></tr></table>No one is disputing that as fact.&nbsp;The problem is that it is unnecessarily systemic&nbsp;and the only people that can change that are women. The reason why they don't IMO is because it is ingrained. It is inline with women who think it's ok to pimp their own daughters. Man comes first.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yeah, but theres no "real" incentive for people to do away with these old, possibly obstructive views.&nbsp;</div><div>As long as it generates Money then you can place any old cog in the system (man/Woman/Alien) as long as they continue producing revenue.</div><div><br></div><div>I think Wrestling is a good example of this. Typically the woman is this hot babe who's</div><div>soul purpose is to look good .. They'll let her wrestle cause 2 girls wrestling is good but she will exhibit every stereotype known to stimulate a males interest physically</div><div><br></div><div>On the flip side.. The guys who are the most successful have to play into some sort of Super Macho Gladiator type of role... again this is done to appeal to the larger male audience cause they are the ones spending money.</div><div><br></div><div>Women and Men kill themselves to look good for each other</div><div><br></div><div>With that said Football has the highest female viewer ship among team sports. I'm pretty sure that the game is appealing but it doesn't hurt (for women I'd think) that these dudes are running around in tights battling to the death like gladiators. These football players are gonna have all sorts of issues neurologically but who cares cause it makes too much damn money!</div></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by OoDles O - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:47pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=58440">bebe88</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:34pm<br /><br />Who gives a fcuk!!!???!!!<br /><br />She did her thang and looked damn good doing it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:21pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" alt="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ScorpioLuv wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" alt="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pattigurlatl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" alt="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ScorpioLuv wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sex sells. Point. Blank. Period. <br><br>Thats life. How do u think stripping and being a p0rn star became so lucrative?<br><br>&nbsp;Jenna Jameson is worth $30 million off of being the best in her business at the time and even opened up her own companies off of it.&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table>I think this is a poor argument and let me tell you I'm incredibly liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality.<br><br>But studies show that <b>women spend more globally and especially in the US.</b> If women withdrew their buying power the country would fall into 3rd world status.<br><br>That being said, we don't influence laws, policies, and even though we influence sales, we don't influence the nature of product and its marketing.&nbsp; Why? Because even women in power, even women with buying power curry the favor of males. Even women in power hire males before they hire females. Women consider men when men don't consider them.<br><br>And so, women cater to the male audience that isn't even concerned about how they spend their money.<br><br>This is why sex sells.<br></td></tr></table>That is very true. We buy more, men buy more expensive things. I always found that funny. But sadly, anything with the media, sex sells. You put a smart, unsexy woman on anything, a women's magazine, perfume ad, tv show, see how fast it moves. Its not bc its catering to the male audience, its bc women as a whole want to be like those women they see on tv, in magazines, the girls men drool over. Thats why sex sells, bc we WOMEN want to appeal to the men, and it has been like that (shown in diff ways) since the beginning of time. Pick up some of the most popular women geared books or magazines out there, theyre telling u how to get a man. What to wear, what to cook, how to act, even how much money u should make. I mean hell, there's engagement chicken! <b><i>What to cook for a man to get him to propose</i></b> pg 228. <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br><br>Do you know that is one of the top recipes out there? sh*t is almost as popular as Nabisco's Nilla Wafer Banana Pudding thats on the side of the box <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley22.gif" border="0" alt="Stern Smile" title="Stern Smile" /><br></td></tr></table>I guess no matter how much money, and how much education. Women will always put men before their own needs, wants and desires.<br><br>I think of Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton, who I both admire...but they put their own aside for their men. That sends a message no matter how you slice it.&nbsp; And maybe that's the way it's supposed to be.<br><br>But if so, then maybe when we see our daughters gyrating on stage for the dollar whether it is in a strip club or on a world stage, we have no room to talk.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13167">ThoughtCouture</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:14pm<br /><br /><P>meh.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by OoDles O" alt="Originally posted by OoDles O" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>OoDles O wrote:</strong><br /><br />money is king.<div>and generating revenue is the goal</div><div>men pimp women.. women pimp women..</div><div>aint no money in pimping men.</div><div><br></div><div>Thats why Donkey/stallion booty videos are made &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>lol</div></td></tr></table>No one is disputing that as fact. The problem is that it is unnecessarily systemic and the only people that can change that are women. The reason why they don't IMO is because it is ingrained. It is inline with women who think it's ok to pimp their own daughters. Man comes first.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=47728">ScorpioLuv</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:02pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" alt="Originally posted by pattigurlatl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pattigurlatl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" alt="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ScorpioLuv wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sex sells. Point. Blank. Period. <br><br>Thats life. How do u think stripping and being a p0rn star became so lucrative?<br><br>&nbsp;Jenna Jameson is worth $30 million off of being the best in her business at the time and even opened up her own companies off of it.&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table>I think this is a poor argument and let me tell you I'm incredibly liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality.<br><br>But studies show that <b>women spend more globally and especially in the US.</b> If women withdrew their buying power the country would fall into 3rd world status.<br><br>That being said, we don't influence laws, policies, and even though we influence sales, we don't influence the nature of product and its marketing.&nbsp; Why? Because even women in power, even women with buying power curry the favor of males. Even women in power hire males before they hire females. Women consider men when men don't consider them.<br><br>And so, women cater to the male audience that isn't even concerned about how they spend their money.<br><br>This is why sex sells.<br></td></tr></table>That is very true. We buy more, men buy more expensive things. I always found that funny. But sadly, anything with the media, sex sells. You put a smart, unsexy woman on anything, a women's magazine, perfume ad, tv show, see how fast it moves. Its not bc its catering to the male audience, its bc women as a whole want to be like those women they see on tv, in magazines, the girls men drool over. Thats why sex sells, bc we WOMEN want to appeal to the men, and it has been like that (shown in diff ways) since the beginning of time. Pick up some of the most popular women geared books or magazines out there, theyre telling u how to get a man. What to wear, what to cook, how to act, even how much money u should make. I mean hell, there's engagement chicken! <b><i>What to cook for a man to get him to propose</i></b> pg 228. <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br><br>Do you know that is one of the top recipes out there? sh*t is almost as popular as Nabisco's Nilla Wafer Banana Pudding thats on the side of the box <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley22.gif" border="0" alt="Stern Smile" title="Stern Smile" /><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by ScorpioLuv - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:02pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=53345">OoDles O</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:01pm<br /><br />money is king.<div>and generating revenue is the goal</div><div>men pimp women.. women pimp women..</div><div>aint no money in pimping mens sexuality.</div><div><br></div><div>Thats why Donkey/stallion booty videos are made &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>lol</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by OoDles O - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 6:02pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12653">pattigurlatl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:53pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" alt="Originally posted by ScorpioLuv" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ScorpioLuv wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sex sells. Point. Blank. Period. <br><br>Thats life. How do u think stripping and being a p0rn star became so lucrative?<br><br>&nbsp;Jenna Jameson is worth $30 million off of being the best in her business at the time and even opened up her own companies off of it.&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table>I think this is a poor argument and let me tell you I'm incredibly liberal when it comes to sex and sexuality.<br><br>But studies show that women spend more globally and especially in the US. If women withdrew their buying power the country would fall into 3rd world status.<br><br>That being said, we don't influence laws, policies, and even though we influence sales, we don't influence the nature of product and its marketing.&nbsp; Why? Because even women in power, even women with buying power curry the favor of males. Even women in power hire males before they hire females. Women consider men when men don't consider them.<br><br>And so, women cater to the male audience that isn't even concerned about how they spend their money.<br><br>This is why sex sells.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=47728">ScorpioLuv</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:42pm<br /><br />Sex sells. Point. Blank. Period. <br><br>Thats life. How do u think stripping and being a p0rn star became so lucrative?<br><br>&nbsp;Jenna Jameson is worth $30 million off of being the best in her business at the time and even opened up her own companies off of it.&nbsp; <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=33790">nycdiva357</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:30pm<br /><br />nita in here dropping jewels n shyt.<br><br>i like that<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13569">carolina cutie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:28pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br />So if guys are the problems, and they way guys are judging women is the problem...<br><br>raise your damn sons better. while watching the superbowl with her daughter, she could have made it a teachable moment for her son.<br></td></tr></table><img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley38.gif" border="0" alt="Lamp" title="Lamp" /><br><br>But no one wants to deal with that sooo.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=39668">niecy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:08pm<br /><br />Yeah the only way she will be able to keep her daughter away from that is to keep her in a bubble for the rest of her life]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=35553">blaquefoxx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:06pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by madame pink" alt="Originally posted by madame pink" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>madame pink wrote:</strong><br /><br /><strong>“I do not want my daughter to grow up in a world where the boys and men around her constantly judge her morality in terms of physical attraction.</strong> I don’t want her to hear things like, “waiting till marriage is sexy” or “it’s a turn-off when girls smoke”. I want her to hear things like, “your virtue is worth too much to throw away on someone who is not going to commit his life to you.” I want her to hear someone say, “smoking damages your body, and you’re too precious to damage for recreation.” I want her to grow up in a world where men and women talk about issues of virtue and modesty in terms of objective truth, not in terms of sex appeal.”<br><br><b>People kill me. <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" alt="Angry" title="Angry" /> We cannot control the entire world. It is the duty of the parent to teach and guide their children so that they can deal responsibility no matter what is going on in the world. All of the things she wants her child to hear is on her as the parent to instill these things. Who the freak cares what Beyonce was doing on stage. It was a freaking act and that's all. People are reading too much into it. If they were siting home watching should have turned the damn tv off. </b><br></td></tr></table><i><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">This</font></i>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=18527">madame pink</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:03pm<br /><br /><strong>“I do not want my daughter to grow up in a world where the boys and men around her constantly judge her morality in terms of physical attraction.</strong> I don’t want her to hear things like, “waiting till marriage is sexy” or “it’s a turn-off when girls smoke”. I want her to hear things like, “your virtue is worth too much to throw away on someone who is not going to commit his life to you.” I want her to hear someone say, “smoking damages your body, and you’re too precious to damage for recreation.” I want her to grow up in a world where men and women talk about issues of virtue and modesty in terms of objective truth, not in terms of sex appeal.”<br><br>People kill me. <img src="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" alt="Angry" title="Angry" /> We cannot control the entire world. It is the duty of the parent to teach and guide their children so that they can deal responsibility no matter what is going on in the world. All of the things she wants her child to hear is on her as the parent to instill these things. Who the freak cares what Beyonce was doing on stage. It was a freaking act and that's all. People are reading too much into it. If they were siting home watching should have turned the damn tv off. <br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by madame pink - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 5:04pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=72489">Miss SDY</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:50pm<br /><br /><P>Well that Go daddy commerical kiss was disgustingly loud....... <img src="http://forum2.blackhairmedia.com/smileys/smiley39.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Sick" title="Sick" /></P><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>&nbsp; <DIV>They need to leave Bey alone. There is much worse on tv than her gyrating her pelvis around on a stage. I really think this is more about her support of our President. Which has already been mentioned in this thread..</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Miss SDY - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:52pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=55536">_ConcreteRose_</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:50pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br />So if guys are the problems, and they way guys are judging women is the problem...<br><br>raise your damn sons better. while watching the superbowl with her daughter, she could have made it a teachable moment for her son.<br></td></tr></table>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=15771">Harmonii</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:23pm<br /><br />Yup--and I wish someone would call them out on it on too.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9652">sexibeach</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 354299<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:12pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by nitabug" alt="Originally posted by nitabug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>nitabug wrote:</strong><br /><br />The conservatives are coming after Bey's neck for supporting barack...first the inauguration, now this bs. lol<br><br>Where was this article when the lovely Madonna graced the stage?<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><font size="4">this is what i've been saying all along, its her association with the President.. raising cash for him, singing at the&nbsp;inauguration period.. they hate him, so now they hate her..Obama is the fault of everything in the world so they say.. its his fault. &nbsp;&nbsp;</font></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by sexibeach - Feb&nbsp;05&nbsp;2013 at 4:14pm</span>]]>
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