Black Hair Media Forum : "i'm not your slave and you're not my master." http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:25:38 +0000 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:38:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.15 360 Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=353293 <![CDATA[Black Hair Media Forum]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com//forum_images/BHM_Logo_v5_Forum.jpg http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : afrokock wrote:also the betina,...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075650.html#10075650 Author: ThoughtCouture
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 15 2013 at 10:38am

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

also the betina, scene, when don johnson says dont treat him like no ordinary nicca, but you cant treat him like white folk neither, (that once a nicca always a nicca moment) 

 
i think he told her to treat him like po yt trash...
]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:38:34 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075650.html#10075650 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : So I watched the movie earlier.It&#039;s...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075351.html#10075351 Author: Sang Froid
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 15 2013 at 4:58am

So I watched the movie earlier.
It's a comedic western style movie that happens to deal with slavery.
I enjoyed it....though I could have done without all the blood splatter. 

]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:58:15 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075351.html#10075351 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : yeah i noticed that too and i...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075349.html#10075349 Author: afrokock
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Posted: Jan 15 2013 at 4:52am

yeah i noticed that too and i laughed a lot!

it was quite a trending post on tumblr!

and i agree with your analysis, the klan wasnt some big scheme it was just a bunch of bumbling fools who used scare tactics

it was one of the better points on the ecreen.

also the betina, scene, when don johnson says dont treat him like no ordinary nicca, but you cant treat him like white folk neither, (that once a nicca always a nicca moment)

the more i think about it, the more i actually didnt want jamie fox to get his wife in the end, that was a tad bit too cliche as would have been keeping dr schultz alive.

my s.o pointed something out, she said, he is supposed to be this bad ass sharpshooting supernegro with relfexes of note, yet it was inevitable that after schultz shot candy he was bound to be shot. where were those sharp shooting quick reflexes? ]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:52:50 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10075349.html#10075349 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Good discussion. Too bad I&#039;m...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10074370.html#10074370 Author: noneyons
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 7:56pm

Good discussion. Too bad I'm late and too tired to add much. 

I did want to know how everyone interpreted that "pre Klan" rally bit. I was dying laughing but at the same time I think there was a bigger message in that scene that people may have overlooked. I thought it was a brilliant in its description of the racist white men being, not some big ugly scary looking, intimidating monsters but  just the regular, goofy, dumb,nerdy and dumb white dudes that we all come across everyday. 

Too tired to expound but did anyone else pick up on that?
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:56:36 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10074370.html#10074370 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : BeatriceBean wrote: ...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10073237.html#10073237 Author: iGotSunshine
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 12:34pm

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

To the people who dislike the movie, can you give specific reasons why you don't like it? Like specific scenes and whatnot? I'm just really trying to understand why people are so up in arms about this film. 

I read the article that Alias posted but I still don't understand the gripe. The person who wrote th piece kept talking bout how the film denies the viewer of this, makes the viewer insensitive to that but I'm like...dude, how you gone tell me how I interpreted the movie? LOL 

While I agree that Django is far from a masterpiece,  it really isn't that deep to me but I'd like to understand other people's perspectives. 


 but I didn't like that he didn't tell the three men being transported to the mine to go, to look for the north star or anything. I didn't like that he didn't work with any of the slaves. I think that it would have been awesome to have had a band of rogue slaves, or even a few, just fvcking up shyt. But to me, he just seemed like most uppity negroes who feel powerful because they're in with the white man, who use whatever power they have to get what they want (Broomhilda in this case) then go about their business then go on their merry way. And I don't know that it wasn't an accident. I feel like it could have been more interesting...or even just more entertaining...if it weren't just Django being unchained. 

But oh well.

yes that was cold. 

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:34:38 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10073237.html#10073237 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : yep...i smiled but was not moved...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072977.html#10072977 Author: ThoughtCouture
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 10:20am

yep...i smiled but was not moved with emotion...
 
i wanted kerry to have a bigger role as well...
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:20:58 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072977.html#10072977 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : ThoughtCouture wrote:yeah bb...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072974.html#10072974 Author: BeatriceBean
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 10:18am

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

yeah bb his me me me attitude kept me from relating to him or even being all that happy when he got his woman back...i usually drop a few tears during the cescendo of  movies with this sort of reuniting.  not one single tear was shed in this case...
 
Yeah. I was happy for him, but I was ultimately left with a meh
 
I was disappointed that Kerry didn't have a bigger role, too, as much as they hyped her up.


Edited by BeatriceBean - Jan 14 2013 at 10:22am]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:18:30 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072974.html#10072974 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : yeah bb his me me me attitude...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072803.html#10072803 Author: ThoughtCouture
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 8:05am

yeah bb his me me me attitude kept me from relating to him or even being all that happy when he got his woman back...i usually drop a few tears during the cescendo of  movies with this sort of reuniting.  not one single tear was shed in this case...]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:05:29 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072803.html#10072803 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Midna wrote:Real talk, I...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072768.html#10072768 Author: f8dagrate
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 6:28am

Originally posted by Midna Midna wrote:

Real talk, I would have loved a revolt.

I was already clapping with glee whenever Django whooped white ass, me making white audience members uncomfortable with pleasure, but a revolt would have had me straight cheering.



Is there a great movie about Nat turner out? Because django was a non-empathetic movie from a white mans point of view...
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:28:40 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072768.html#10072768 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Midna wrote: BeatriceBean...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072761.html#10072761 Author: BeatriceBean
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:47am

Originally posted by Midna Midna wrote:

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?

i do agree that he could have been more helpful to the other slaves being transported or banded up with them

the one thing that stuck out to me though was as much s he was a free man, he still took orders from dr schultz

but tbh i never looked that much into the movie

And the exact same thing can be said about Steven (Samuel L.), yet everyone hates his character. Steven was playing a role, looking out for himself, making sure that since he has to be a slave he's going to get the best life he can get. Every slave in that house was forced to play a role yet that makes neither them nor Django, nor this entire movie any more likeable to me.




I disagree though, Steve Ruckus was just a plain coon. House slave who fell victim to white supremacist ideals and was willingly subservient to "massa" not only to look out for himself but because he genuinely felt that way.

He outright looked out for Candie. Was greatly bothered by Django being treated as an equal. Exposed Django and Schultz's plan. Grew suspicious of his wife. Showed genuine mourning when Candie got shot. Cursed Django and praised the white man until he got blown up.

Old man, even when in the position of being free and no longer having a white master to serve defended his oppressors. He did not change at all. It's like a sick racial stockholm syndrome.

One thing that I dislike about this movie is that it's not meant to be "that deep," and unlike the way that it was marketed, it wasn't meant to "spark discussion" about history and slavery and blackness. In the way that Steven was presented, I see where you're coming from and think that you're correct. I also disagree with you.

I know that this was a film set in slavery, not a film about slavery. But I feel that in order to truly understand Steven's character, he can't only live in the universe of this movie. Of course he's nobody's hero, but a man who has learned to navigate the sadistic evils of slavery in order to survive. I believe that the utmost loyalty to the Candie family was his only way to ensure stability, to avoid torture and to make the best of the only life he knew, without a gun and a liberal white man. When Candie got shot, I'm pretty sure that he knew that he was going to be sold and life wouldn't be nearly as decent for him wherever he went. I don't admire Steven one bit but it begs the question, at least for me, how did slaves survive slavery? Run away (to where?), just endure it and hope that there's a Heaven, revolt, die, or pander to make sure your basic needs are met. What else?


Edited by BeatriceBean - Jan 14 2013 at 6:36am]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:47:13 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072761.html#10072761 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Positive K wrote:yea i think...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072757.html#10072757 Author: BeatriceBean
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:42am

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

yea i think maybe some of yall wanted this film to be a "slave revolt" movie when that was never its true intention...so naw Django wasn't gonna rally up slaves and start up a rebellion...it was strictly about him getting his woman....this wasn't a black empowerment film

Yeah I think that would have been great, actually. I think the fact that QT made this a film solely about getting his woman against the backdrop of American slavery almost made the entire story too easy for me. 

And I also have a problem with this film being marketed as "important" in black media. Kathy Hughes and all of them saw the movie before Christmas and still marketed it a certain way, and they were wrong for that. There was absolutely no takeaway, and while I think that, for what it was, it was a decent movie, it was as unimportant as pretty much every other movie out here.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:42:33 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072757.html#10072757 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : BBpants wrote:Uppity ass negro!!...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072756.html#10072756 Author: afrokock
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:42am

Originally posted by BBpants BBpants wrote:

Uppity ass negro!! LOL 

stfu

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:42:01 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072756.html#10072756 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Real talk, I would have loved...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072750.html#10072750 Author: Midna
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:21am

Real talk, I would have loved a revolt.

I was already clapping with glee whenever Django whooped white ass, me making white audience members uncomfortable with pleasure, but a revolt would have had me straight cheering.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:21:02 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072750.html#10072750 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : PeacefulOne wrote:I haven&#039;t...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072748.html#10072748 Author: Midna
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:18am

Originally posted by PeacefulOne PeacefulOne wrote:

I haven't see the movie yet.   

QT is a strange dude, and eccentric, but I can say one thing I know to be true: HE IS NOT A RACIST. 
 
I think in a way,  he has forgotten that he is white.  He will pop off saying things  and think nothing about it until someone says, hey man, wtf?  He is very cameleon like.  He is wierd, but HOLLYWOOD will do that to you.  That's why I don't live there anymore.
 
As someone has said, his movies have been controversial from the beginning of his career.  He often goes against the grain and does sh1t cause he can, and because he dares to.  He also keeps a lot of black folks working in film.  White Hollywood is none to pleased about it, but when the money comes rolling in they shut up and stick out their hands for a piece of the action.  I take the publicity with a grain of salt.  It's entertainment, not real.  But that doesn't mean that sh1t can't portray what happened irl. 


I love Tarantino, but he used to be very ignorant when it came to race. But these days, it's clear the man definitely knows better and has learned quite a lot about the dynamics of race and racism in America.

Did anyone see his little interview backstage in the golden globe awards where stars talk to the camera after getting their awards?

If you see how this man was dropping truth bombs about drugs and the modern day slavery that is jail that America actively seeks to throw black men in, you'd be surprised this is the same Quentin who felt so entitled earlier in his career.

He only repeated what has always been said but I'm glad he said it at the for the nation to hear.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:18:08 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072748.html#10072748 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : BeatriceBean wrote: ...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072747.html#10072747 Author: Midna
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:13am

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

To the people who dislike the movie, can you give specific reasons why you don't like it? Like specific scenes and whatnot? I'm just really trying to understand why people are so up in arms about this film. 

I read the article that Alias posted but I still don't understand the gripe. The person who wrote th piece kept talking bout how the film denies the viewer of this, makes the viewer insensitive to that but I'm like...dude, how you gone tell me how I interpreted the movie? LOL 

While I agree that Django is far from a masterpiece,  it really isn't that deep to me but I'd like to understand other people's perspectives. 


*SPOILERS*
 

I just saw the movie for the first time and I want to get my major gripes with this film out while they're still fresh.

I didn't mind the gratuitous use of the "n-word" or the violence...in fact I loved the violence and I normally don't. To be truthful, I didn't really even mind all that much that a film that supposedly stars Jamie Foxx is was still very much a white savior film. I think that I took it for exactly what it is, a non-historical "cowboy" piece set in the antebellum South, a piece of entertainment, a QT film, and I still don't like it. My husband loves it. 

I don't see Django and Steven as two radically different characters, and that's why I found it hard to root for Django. Make no mistake, I loved seeing him kill all those whiteys. I know that his main focus was getting his wife back, but it seemed obvious to me that he didn't really give two shyts about any of the other black people in the film. Steven used his position with Candie to make life harder for the other slaves, but ultimately he was still a slave trying to protect himself. Django's character is actually somewhat disturbing to me because he was a free man (yeah, and I know, 1858 Mississippi), and his position with Dr. Schulz gave him a great deal of leverage, far beyond the slaves and even above the bottom of the barrel white people. But he used his advantage and his access to down-talk the slaves when he JUST became free, and he didn't let Schulz buy D'artagnan so that he wouldn't be eaten by the dogs. That was just it for me.  

According to my husband, I'm reading way too much into this but I didn't like that he didn't tell the three men being transported to the mine to go, to look for the north star or anything. I didn't like that he didn't work with any of the slaves. I think that it would have been awesome to have had a band of rogue slaves, or even a few, just fvcking up shyt. But to me, he just seemed like most uppity negroes who feel powerful because they're in with the white man, who use whatever power they have to get what they want (Broomhilda in this case) then go about their business then go on their merry way. And I don't know that it wasn't an accident. I feel like it could have been more interesting...or even just more entertaining...if it weren't just Django being unchained. 

But oh well.


You know, you make very good points and I too had similar thoughts while watching the film though I enjoyed it. But Django really could have been more sympathetic and help out other slaves.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:13:08 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072747.html#10072747 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : BeatriceBean wrote: afrokock...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072745.html#10072745 Author: Midna
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 5:06am

Originally posted by BeatriceBean BeatriceBean wrote:

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?

i do agree that he could have been more helpful to the other slaves being transported or banded up with them

the one thing that stuck out to me though was as much s he was a free man, he still took orders from dr schultz

but tbh i never looked that much into the movie

And the exact same thing can be said about Steven (Samuel L.), yet everyone hates his character. Steven was playing a role, looking out for himself, making sure that since he has to be a slave he's going to get the best life he can get. Every slave in that house was forced to play a role yet that makes neither them nor Django, nor this entire movie any more likeable to me.




I disagree though, Steve Ruckus was just a plain coon. House slave who fell victim to white supremacist ideals and was willingly subservient to "massa" not only to look out for himself but because he genuinely felt that way.

He outright looked out for Candie. Was greatly bothered by Django being treated as an equal. Exposed Django and Schultz's plan. Grew suspicious of his wife. Showed genuine mourning when Candie got shot. Cursed Django and praised the white man until he got blown up.

Old man, even when in the position of being free and no longer having a white master to serve defended his oppressors. He did not change at all. It's like a sick racial stockholm syndrome.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:06:55 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072745.html#10072745 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Uppity ass negro!! ]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072742.html#10072742 Author: BBpants
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 4:47am

Uppity ass negro!! LOL ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:47:42 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072742.html#10072742 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : good point BB i think in django&#039;s...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072739.html#10072739 Author: afrokock
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 4:37am

good point BB

i think in django's case it was that we see his persecution throughout the entire movie, he becomes endearing. whereas steven, well, we saw no redeeming qualities about him, nothing was endearing to his character.

two sides of the same coin though ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:37:27 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072739.html#10072739 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : afrokock wrote:django was...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072727.html#10072727 Author: BeatriceBean
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 4:23am

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?

i do agree that he could have been more helpful to the other slaves being transported or banded up with them

the one thing that stuck out to me though was as much s he was a free man, he still took orders from dr schultz

but tbh i never looked that much into the movie

And the exact same thing can be said about Steven (Samuel L.), yet everyone hates his character. Steven was playing a role, looking out for himself, making sure that since he has to be a slave he's going to get the best life he can get. Every slave in that house was forced to play a role yet that makes neither them nor Django, nor this entire movie any more likeable to me.


]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:23:27 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072727.html#10072727 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : but damn steven, lol i wonder...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072639.html#10072639 Author: afrokock
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:40am

but damn steven, lol

i wonder if they got aaron mcgruder to write his lines,

then again, sam was ed wunclers sidekick's voice in the boondocks

that was funny and that nicca sholl was uppity ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:40:28 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072639.html#10072639 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : afrokock wrote:django was uppity?...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072635.html#10072635 Author: iBetYouhNvNika
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:37am

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:37:20 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072635.html#10072635 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : f8dagrate wrote: tasty0619...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072634.html#10072634 Author: tasty0619
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:36am

Originally posted by f8dagrate f8dagrate wrote:

Originally posted by tasty0619 tasty0619 wrote:

I thought the dog scene was a test to see, like Afro said, if he would be sympathetic to the slaves, or if they were seriously trying to buy a fighter-well a winner. Because that is what got them in Candie's graces and on his property after all.

I would have liked to see him empower another slave or free man and not be on that "I am one in 10,000" or whatever the line was.


true.. he was basically saying that Candie was right in his theories.

But...I don't feel like he was right. He was trained. Granted many things take some sort of natural talent but he was trained and practiced to become that good.


Edited by tasty0619 - Jan 14 2013 at 3:38am]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:36:44 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072634.html#10072634 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : tasty0619 wrote:I thought...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072625.html#10072625 Author: f8dagrate
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:33am

Originally posted by tasty0619 tasty0619 wrote:

I thought the dog scene was a test to see, like Afro said, if he would be sympathetic to the slaves, or if they were seriously trying to buy a fighter-well a winner. Because that is what got them in Candie's graces and on his property after all.

I would have liked to see him empower another slave or free man and not be on that "I am one in 10,000" or whatever the line was.


true.. he was basically saying that Candie was right in his theories.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:33:11 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072625.html#10072625 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Positive K wrote:naw Django...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072623.html#10072623 Author: f8dagrate
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:31am

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

naw Django was free after they killed those 3 brothers...cause Schultz was like "i can't see myself letting u go to Mississippi alone, i never gave a man his freedom before....." 



but a negro still ain't free in MississippiLOL
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:31:38 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072623.html#10072623 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : I thought the dog scene was a...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072620.html#10072620 Author: tasty0619
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:31am

I thought the dog scene was a test to see, like Afro said, if he would be sympathetic to the slaves, or if they were seriously trying to buy a fighter-well a winner. Because that is what got them in Candie's graces and on his property after all.

I would have liked to see him empower another slave or free man and not be on that "I am one in 10,000" or whatever the line was.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:31:20 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072620.html#10072620 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Positive K wrote:not sure...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072617.html#10072617 Author: f8dagrate
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:29am

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

not sure how Django was uppity....or how he was responsible for that slave's death...


 he wasn't he just pretended to be, he even told cora to, "get the hell away from those qwhite people" LOL
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:29:57 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072617.html#10072617 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : afrokock wrote:django was...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072613.html#10072613 Author: f8dagrate
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:28am

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?

i do agree that he could have been more helpful to the other slaves being transported or banded up with them

the one thing that stuck out to me though was as much s he was a free man, he still took orders from dr schultz

but tbh i never looked that much into the movie


he wasn't technically a free man until he finished working with schultz. Remember that schultz said "you help me and pretend to be a freeman".. and that he will help him get his wife back then his freedom. But he had to listen to Dr.schultz first and finish their mission.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:28:14 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072613.html#10072613 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : django was uppity? i thought he...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072599.html#10072599 Author: afrokock
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 3:19am

django was uppity?

i thought he had a role to play

act too slaveish and you were a dead man, being a sympathetic niguh would have been seen as aweakness like how are you a sympathetic niguh and here you are trying to play the role of a mandigo fight master? no comprende no?

i do agree that he could have been more helpful to the other slaves being transported or banded up with them

the one thing that stuck out to me though was as much s he was a free man, he still took orders from dr schultz

but tbh i never looked that much into the movie ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:19:16 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072599.html#10072599 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : I haven&#039;t see the movie yet. QT...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072418.html#10072418 Author: PeacefulOne
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 14 2013 at 1:53am

I haven't see the movie yet.   

QT is a strange dude, and eccentric, but I can say one thing I know to be true: HE IS NOT A RACIST. 
 
I think in a way,  he has forgotten that he is white.  He will pop off saying things  and think nothing about it until someone says, hey man, wtf?  He is very cameleon like.  He is wierd, but HOLLYWOOD will do that to you.  That's why I don't live there anymore.
 
As someone has said, his movies have been controversial from the beginning of his career.  He often goes against the grain and does sh1t cause he can, and because he dares to.  He also keeps a lot of black folks working in film.  White Hollywood is none to pleased about it, but when the money comes rolling in they shut up and stick out their hands for a piece of the action.  I take the publicity with a grain of salt.  It's entertainment, not real.  But that doesn't mean that sh1t can't portray what happened irl. 
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:53:17 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10072418.html#10072418 <![CDATA["i'm not your slave and you're not my master." : Yeah Django was uppity. I didn&#039;t...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/im-not-your-slave-and-youre-not-my-master_topic353293_post10071858.html#10071858 Author: BBpants
Subject: 353293
Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 10:10pm

Yeah Django was uppity. I didn't like that he didn't show any guilt or any emotion towards getting that slave killed. He also seemed to like being "above" the other slaves. He was quick to put them in their place whenever necessary.
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