Black Hair Media Forum : I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ Tue, 21 May 2013 10:47:13 +0000 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 05:33:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.15 360 Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=348447 <![CDATA[Black Hair Media Forum]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com//forum_images/BHM_Logo_v5_Forum.jpg http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Lots of tips. ]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10298851.html#10298851 Author: sidhealth
Subject: 348447
Posted: Apr 26 2013 at 5:33am

Lots of tips.]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 05:33:50 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10298851.html#10298851 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : it sound to me that your hair...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10107816.html#10107816 Author: yahya
Subject: 348447
Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 12:51am

it sound to me that your hair is both overly porous and protein overloaded. entry from my journal:

"PROTEIN OVERLOAD is characterized by dry and hard hair. when moisturizing and conditioning, your hair will feel very soft and moist. it will take a while for your hair to dry, but once it dries it becomes very hard. in my experience, the outer cuticle layer is what felt dry and hard, but the inner layer still felt moisturized. with breakage, the hair snaps rather then stretches out, due to the small amounts of elasticity in the hair. a good way to tell the amount of elasticity in your hair is by doing the elasticity test. the hair also gets harder to detangle.

MOISTURE OVERLOAD is characterized by very moist hair that stretches too much, resulting in breakage. the hair will feel too soft and mushy. evaluating this is the easiest because it's symptoms is not like the other hair issues.

LOW POROSITY is associated with smooth cuticles that shine, but water doesn't enter easily. depending how much water absorbed determines how long it'll take for the hair to dry. when water is absorbed properly the hair will take a long time to dry. if water isn't absorbed properly the hair will dry fast. and when moisturizing the hair, product has a hard time entering, usually resulting in creme laying on your strands.

HIGH POROSITY acts like a sponge. moisture can easily enter, but easily exits. when the hair dries it dries, and quickly. hair cuticles will feel dry and also feel rigid, and not smooth. a good way to figure out porosity is see how long a strand of your hair floats in water.hair that has high porosity is usually has malnutrition."

if you don't want to do acv rinses, I recommend roux porosity control. kimmaytube's leave-in recipe also helps correct porosity. and the majority of the girls on this forum have naturally dry hair, that doesn't really mean anything. it's not possible for hair to be incapable of getting moisturized unless it's extremely damaged. the problem is your regimen. all the "moisturizing" deep conditioner paks you have are actually protein deep conditioners. and all protein treatments must be followed by a deep conditioner with no or minimum protein ingredients. examples, aubrey organics honeysuckle rose, queen helene cholesterol, keracare humectress, ect.

the problem is you have too much protein in you your regimen and you have no ph correctors.

]]> Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:51:45 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10107816.html#10107816 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : MissDomo wrote:I stopped doing...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10030831.html#10030831 Author: KunoichiNindroid
Subject: 348447
Posted: Dec 28 2012 at 11:25am

MissDomo wrote:

I stopped doing ACV rinses for the time. I believe that my skin on my scalp and around it are too sensitive for apple cider vinegar. I think my hair is just naturally dry, but if it is protein overload why am I receiving large amounts of breakage still?

Thanks for all the replies!

Protein overload makes your hair more brittle so it can actually break more. Have you figured out what it was or found anything that works?]]> Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:25:26 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10030831.html#10030831 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Aloe vera juice!!! Add to your...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10030415.html#10030415 Author: RedAdmiral101
Subject: 348447
Posted: Dec 28 2012 at 8:43am

Aloe vera juice!!! Add to your leave ins or conditioneers & use as a spritz. It helps by closing the cuticles (pH) I've been using it for years.]]> Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:43:43 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post10030415.html#10030415 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : MissDomo wrote:I stopped...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9931047.html#9931047 Author: Veemack
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 1:26pm

ACV rinses are not meant for frequent usage. I only recommend them once every two weeks until your hair starts to hold moisture. Once my hair started to retain moisture for 3 days straight, I stopped the rinses. And I kept rinsing with cold water, but my hair cuticle just started to behave and close as it should. As of this post I have not done a ACV rinse in over a month. Also I use organic ACV...... You ask why your hair is breaking? Because it is not holding moisture dry hair equals weakened hair and weak hair leads to breakage. ACV is very mild unless you put to much in your mix. I drink it ACV daily it keeps colds away and other germs. My mix is 1/4 cup of ACV to 2 cups of bottled water or filtered water or 1 tablespoon to 2 cups of water. Pour over hair and let it sit only 3 minutes and rinse with cold, cold water. Then follow with your leave in conditioner. The ACV closes the cuticle and your leave in restores your PH balance. Well that is all I have in response to your questions. Blessings to you, hope you can stop your breakage, you possibly already have. Blessings!!!!!!

Note: Another trick I used to close my cuticle that I found works really well, if you keep bottled water in stock. I would rinse out my DC with bottle water. So my final rinse whatever that was I use bottle water to rinse out product. You hair feels amazing after rinsing with bottle water. This is a quick fix until you can purchase a water filter for your shower or sink. Water filters are the best for dry hair issues. Because many times the water we use is hard water which dries out hair out.

Edited by Veemack - Nov 17 2012 at 1:31pm]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:26:16 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9931047.html#9931047 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : sugabanana wrote:Product...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9931031.html#9931031 Author: Veemack
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 1:19pm

sugabanana wrote:

Product suggestions please...after an AVC rinse?

Sorry just seeing this post. A deep moisturizing conditioner after your protein treatment in which you sit under a dryer will do just fine.
]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:19:38 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9931031.html#9931031 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : I stopped doing ACV rinses for...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9929090.html#9929090 Author: MissDomo
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:13pm

I stopped doing ACV rinses for the time. I believe that my skin on my scalp and around it are too sensitive for apple cider vinegar. I think my hair is just naturally dry, but if it is protein overload why am I receiving large amounts of breakage still?

Thanks for all the replies!

Edited by MissDomo - Nov 16 2012 at 2:15pm]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:13:38 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9929090.html#9929090 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Product suggestions please...after...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9906069.html#9906069 Author: sugabanana
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 12:06pm

Product suggestions please...after an AVC rinse?]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:06:49 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9906069.html#9906069 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Protein especially the weak ones...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9906053.html#9906053 Author: Veemack
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 11:59am

Protein especially the weak ones listed in the products the OP is using will rinse off of your hair strands very easily with shampoo. Contrary to popular beliefs protein is not usually the issue. You must get your hair to retain its moisture for more than just a day.]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:59:00 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9906053.html#9906053 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : I'm in the same boat. I...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905916.html#9905916 Author: sugabanana
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 10:38am

I'm in the same boat. I wash my hair and it feels luscious for like 10 minutes then back to crunch city. If I do the baggy trick then the hair feel ooober luscious for like 15 minutes. The air zaps it. Yesterday I used mane & tail clarifying shampoo to start all over. My hair felt squeaky...Like wet shoes on a shiny floor you know that sound.(not sure if its supposed to make sounds) Is this a good thing or bad thing.

I'm not going to use any shampoos for a while until I solve this mystery of am I overly pourous or do I have protein overload...That is the question????

I'm told cones are the beast so everything I have now has a cone or 2 in it. Some of the product also have alcohol. I'm hearing alcohol is the devil.

Chime in ladies cos I need this hair to grow and grow right. Everyone has such an amazing attitude with awesome results!

Edited by sugabanana - Nov 06 2012 at 10:41am]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:38:26 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905916.html#9905916 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Actually looking at the products...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905857.html#9905857 Author: KunoichiNindroid
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 10:00am

Actually looking at the products you're using I'm 99.99% sure it's protein overload.]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:00:16 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905857.html#9905857 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Sounds more like protein overload...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905855.html#9905855 Author: KunoichiNindroid
Subject: 348447
Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 9:57am

Sounds more like protein overload to me. I literally have the same problem. You can check out the last post on my blog to see if it's really similar to mine. You might have protein sensitive hair especially since most of the products you're using have protein.]]> Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:57:29 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9905855.html#9905855 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : MissDomo wrote: Veemack...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9795181.html#9795181 Author: Veemack
Subject: 348447
Posted: Sep 18 2012 at 11:02pm

MissDomo wrote:

Veemack wrote:

Pour a mixture of apple cider vinegar and bottled water over your hair let it sit for 3 minutes, then rinse with cold water for 3 more minutes. Use 1/4 ACV to 2 cups of bottled water. (do not do more than once every two weeks)

Thanks for all your suggestions Veemack, but what exactly is the above supposed to do for my hair? Also I was thinking of mixing glycerin, evoo, and water together as a moisturizer...is this another thing I should not be mixing or would it do me some good? I'll google some more about over porous hair, thanks again!

Overly porous hair absorbs water really quickly but it also releases water rather quickly. This is why some feel their hair eats up product, because you hair is absorbing it fast but releasing any benefits it gets from the DC. All hair is porous but most Afro hair is overly porous you want to get you hair to a balance. The ACV rinse helps your hair cuticle to close and lay flat and this traps in the moisture from your DC. Healthy hair should keep its moisture for 2 days at least before needing to apply anymore product. If you hair is overly porous it does not matter how good the conditioner or product is that you use, it will not work. Correct your overly porous issue and even a cheap conditioner will work miraculous. ACV is also
anti bacteria. and helps with an itchy scalp.

Edited by Veemack - Sep 18 2012 at 11:08pm]]> Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:02:04 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9795181.html#9795181 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Veemack wrote: Pour a mixture...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9794171.html#9794171 Author: MissDomo
Subject: 348447
Posted: Sep 18 2012 at 3:37pm

]]> Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:37:22 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9794171.html#9794171 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : Your story is a popular one....]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9792824.html#9792824 Author: Veemack
Subject: 348447
Posted: Sep 18 2012 at 1:07am

Your story is a popular one. It sounds like your hair is overly porous.
Co wash with conditioner (do away with all shampoo for now)
DC with a good moisturizing conditioner.
Do not mix all of those conditioners together at once, use the ORS replenishing pack by itself
After you rinse conditioner out with cool water.
Pour a mixture of apple cider vinegar and bottled water over your hair let it sit for 3 minutes, then rinse with cold water for 3 more minutes. Use 1/4 ACV to 2 cups of bottled water. (do not do more than once every two weeks)
Proceed with applying your leave in conditioner and style.

Beware of harsh alcohols in your hair products. Apply a natural oil to your hair daily. EVOO, CO or grapeseed oil.

Edited by Veemack - Sep 18 2012 at 1:11am]]> Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:07:07 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9792824.html#9792824 <![CDATA[I don't know what moisturized hair feels like...? : I don't know if it's...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9792057.html#9792057 Author: MissDomo
Subject: 348447
Posted: Sep 17 2012 at 5:10pm

I don't know if it's the products I'm using...the methods of drying, but no matter what I use on my hair, I only get a momentary feeling of moisture. Or maybe my hair is just wet. I don't know the difference. I like the feeling though---but it never lasts more than 10 minutes *sigh*. Also my ends are subject to drying out first no matter how much of the product I use on them.

The only moisturizing products I have of now are my deep conditioning packs -

I deep condition once a week btw..

(I mix all of these together to deep condition)

ORS Olive oil Replenishing Pak

Mega Thick Intense Repair Doo Gro

Mega Long Extreme Reconstructor Doo Gro

and Milk Protein & Olive oil sofn'free

And I use the

Africa's best Kids organics hair lotion, shea butter detangling moisturizing lotion

as a daily moisturizer...

(Everyone raves about this stuff, but idk it's like any other thing I use. A nice 10 minutes of moisture then once my hair dries BAM crunchy hair.... maybe I have to use it more, i just got it yesterday :P )

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I usually judge how moisturized my hair is by rubbing my fingers against my scalp, and by touching my hair. My hair feels like...idk sorta like soft hay, it sounds a bit crunchy too. And my scalp makes a drying sound when I rub against it. Is this all normal or am i doing something terribly wrong?

Edited by MissDomo - Sep 17 2012 at 5:13pm]]> Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:10:35 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/i-dont-know-what-moisturized-hair-feels-like_topic348447_post9792057.html#9792057