Black Hair Media Forum : Apartheid http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:25:04 +0000 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:27:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.15 360 Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=355040 <![CDATA[Black Hair Media Forum]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com//forum_images/BHM_Logo_v5_Forum.jpg http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/ <![CDATA[Apartheid : Naturalchick30 wrote: Derri...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165865.html#10165865 Author: babyk94
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 7:27am

Originally posted by Naturalchick30 Naturalchick30 wrote:

Originally posted by Derri Derri wrote:

Def don't ask his ass his views

 

This
Lol naw it's good to have both views way more interesting to see how different it was for whites and blacks.]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:27:50 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165865.html#10165865 <![CDATA[Apartheid : i thought dictionary was sache...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165858.html#10165858 Author: *Belle*Femme*
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 7:18am

i thought dictionary was sache and then i thought he was positive k. Who are these people?]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:18:29 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165858.html#10165858 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Apartheid is so fascinating to...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165857.html#10165857 Author: *Belle*Femme*
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 7:17am

Apartheid is so fascinating to me because it went on during our era. Its not like segregation or slavery that took place in the US where you can feel at times somewhat removed and think oh that happened so long ago. Apartheid was only about 20 years ago. Wow. I can't believe that. ]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:17:35 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165857.html#10165857 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Naturalchick30 wrote: Derri...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165853.html#10165853 Author: afrokock
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 7:04am

Originally posted by Naturalchick30 Naturalchick30 wrote:

Originally posted by Derri Derri wrote:

Def don't ask his ass his views

 

This
i think it would make for interesting dialogue to be honest

diccy just has to be prepared to school his lecturer ]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:04:58 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165853.html#10165853 <![CDATA[Apartheid : ThoughtCouture wrote:just...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165833.html#10165833 Author: Missvw
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 6:06am

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

just saw movie called "skin" last night...about a south african girl (sandra laing).  who appeared black/colored who was born to 2 white south africans.  although, i'm convinced one of the parents were mulatto or quadroon because they had a second black looking child after her... 
 
 
 
The post production company I use to work edited this film.
It's a good film
]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 06:06:10 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165833.html#10165833 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Derri wrote:Def don&#039;t...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165813.html#10165813 Author: Naturalchick30
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 5:33am

Originally posted by Derri Derri wrote:

Def don't ask his ass his views
 
This
]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 05:33:32 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165813.html#10165813 <![CDATA[Apartheid : im sure he will. the dude is a...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165709.html#10165709 Author: afrokock
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 2:26am



im sure he will.

the dude is a comdeic genius

his tickets out here sold out pretty quick. ]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 02:26:51 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165709.html#10165709 <![CDATA[Apartheid : afrokock wrote: JoliePoufiasse...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165485.html#10165485 Author: AffirmativeBunny
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 24 2013 at 11:20pm

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:



Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

check out some of trevor noahs skits, he speaks on his experiences as a coloured growing up in sa.

a lot of 'cape coloureds' after apartheid was abolished felt marginalised

 
Just googled him. Haven't yet seen one of his skits adressing this particular issue but I just saw his skit on Mandela's birthday and his "Na mean" skit. He's funny. I'ma watch some more
 
Lol, just saw the Tacos skit. Dude is hilarious!



saw him live beginning of january

managed to speak to him after, he's pretty cool

theres a documentary they did in 2004 at the ten year mark either by the bbc or channel 4,

im trying to remember the title

it was pretty sad
 
Already have my ticket to see him live here at the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
Should be awesome!
I'm expecting alot of Pistorious jokes Dead
 
]]> Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:20:59 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165485.html#10165485 <![CDATA[Apartheid : ThoughtCouture wrote:just...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165373.html#10165373 Author: sache1991
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 24 2013 at 10:31pm

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

just saw movie called "skin" last night...about a south african girl (sandra laing).  who appeared black/colored who was born to 2 white south africans.  although, i'm convinced one of the parents were mulatto or quadroon because they had a second black looking child after her... 
 
 
 

I saw this movie today with my sister...very sad.Cry

I'll try to ask him tomorrow Monday after class. Shocked
]]> Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:31:29 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10165373.html#10165373 <![CDATA[Apartheid : JoliePoufiasse wrote: afrokock...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162518.html#10162518 Author: afrokock
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 4:54pm

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:



Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

check out some of trevor noahs skits, he speaks on his experiences as a coloured growing up in sa.

a lot of 'cape coloureds' after apartheid was abolished felt marginalised

 
Just googled him. Haven't yet seen one of his skits adressing this particular issue but I just saw his skit on Mandela's birthday and his "Na mean" skit. He's funny. I'ma watch some more
 
Lol, just saw the Tacos skit. Dude is hilarious!



saw him live beginning of january

managed to speak to him after, he's pretty cool

theres a documentary they did in 2004 at the ten year mark either by the bbc or channel 4,

im trying to remember the title

it was pretty sad ]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:54:05 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162518.html#10162518 <![CDATA[Apartheid : just saw movie called &#034;skin&#034;...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162513.html#10162513 Author: ThoughtCouture
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 4:50pm

just saw movie called "skin" last night...about a south african girl (sandra laing).  who appeared black/colored who was born to 2 white south africans.  although, i'm convinced one of the parents were mulatto or quadroon because they had a second black looking child after her... 
 
trailer 
 
 
]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:50:09 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162513.html#10162513 <![CDATA[Apartheid : afrokock wrote:check out...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162256.html#10162256 Author: JoliePoufiasse
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 2:27pm

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

check out some of trevor noahs skits, he speaks on his experiences as a coloured growing up in sa.

a lot of 'cape coloureds' after apartheid was abolished felt marginalised
 
Just googled him. Haven't yet seen one of his skits adressing this particular issue but I just saw his skit on Mandela's birthday and his "Na mean" skit. He's funny. I'ma watch some more
 
Lol, just saw the Tacos skit. Dude is hilarious!


Edited by JoliePoufiasse - Feb 23 2013 at 2:33pm]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:27:47 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162256.html#10162256 <![CDATA[Apartheid : check out some of trevor noahs...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162245.html#10162245 Author: afrokock
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 2:18pm

check out some of trevor noahs skits, he speaks on his experiences as a coloured growing up in sa.

a lot of 'cape coloureds' after apartheid was abolished felt marginalised ]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:18:31 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162245.html#10162245 <![CDATA[Apartheid : JoliePoufiasse wrote: sistagal...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162189.html#10162189 Author: sistagal
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 1:24pm

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:


Originally posted by sistagal sistagal wrote:

White South Africans will always have different views to apartheid. To them it meant peaceful haven, infrastructure and access to education and health care.

But some will be more than happy to explain them from the point of view of oppressed black South Africans. It was a time where every where was segregated & there were a lot of clashes between the races. There were loads of riots by school children because most black South Africans speak Zulu, Xhosa etc but had to learn in Africaans which is the boers language.

One thing that may also have affected white South Africans are those that had built families with black partners before apartheid. The races where broken into black, white, coloured and Asian. So interracial families where often split up with children being regarded as coloured & parents into black & white race. The children could also be split up if say one of the siblings was very fair they could be regarded as white or if they were dark they could be regarded as black.

I'm sure they'll empathise but all in all apartheid would have been pretty sweet for them lol. Now when it comes to blacks...

ETA: I'm black South African. Well half of it. I did not grow through apartheid but I read around the subject a lot & of course what I have learnt from my family and they what still occurs now

 
This is fascinating to me. And I never knew about the bolded! So there were people that "passed" as well? Also, I've always wondered about the mentality of the asians and the jews during that time. Since the races were so clearly stratified, with blacks at the bottom, did they have somewhat of a sense of "superiority" towards the blacks and "inferiority" with regards to the whites? How was all of this process on a psychological level? I know there were plenty of indians in the ANC and fighting against apartheid, but I've always wondered what the attitudes were socially. I visited south africa the year that Mandela was to be elected and I'll never forget the "white only" signs that were still on the beach in Capetown, even though blacks bathed there too. Like they didn't have the time to take them down...


Plenty people passed. Coloured where sometimes one step below white so some people if the couldn't be white coloured was good. It meant you were "better". There was (& probably continues to be) tension between blacks & coloureds on who is better than who. When I visited in 2004 I remember there was a lot of this black are better/coloureds are better. & I remember I spoke in Afrikaans to this woman & she said "why are you speaking Afrikaans? Are you coloured?" I was like to my cousin, oh I didn't know I wasn't supposed to.... & he said it was like that especially in that area. You were not only separated by your skin colour but also by your language.

Asians have a tough time. Originally they were not in the race categories at all. They were sort of ignored. Then they finally, after a while included Asian as a race, which was taken to represent Chinese and Indian people. I guess every other Asian person was irrelevant lol. They weren't very respected to start with either. But with lighter skin they were able to get more privileges & therefore move up above the blacks.

Obviously that *&%^$#@Es people up psychologically. & those attitudes still remain.

Some signs are not removed before they're historical. ]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:24:26 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162189.html#10162189 <![CDATA[Apartheid : ^Lots of interesting info....]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162183.html#10162183 Author: JoliePoufiasse
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 1:17pm

^Lots of interesting info. I know a lot less than I thought I did. I'm gonna read up on it some more]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:17:02 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162183.html#10162183 <![CDATA[Apartheid : So there are different types of...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162181.html#10162181 Author: sistagal
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 1:12pm

So there are different types of white people in South Africa.

You have the afrikaaners (the boers) they have a history of over 300 yrs in South Africa. They are descendants of Dutch settlers (Afrikaans is a language that has been formed by their own version of Dutch. That's why the languages are very similar)

Then you have the British. They came and colonised the land & pretty much ran things. They started arriving in South Africa in the late 19th century & replacing the boers in government & leadership. Bare in mind the boers have been around since the 16th century. So of course they don't like this..

As the British fully took over the law of the country they treated black & white equally. So before apartheid most of the boers had it worse than the blacks. The blacks owned businesses, had good jobs & where living pretty sweet lives. The afrikaaners had it pretty bad & had to struggle to make it. They had to work just as hard as everyone basically.

& of course they hated that sh*t.

So that is what led to the boer wars. They wanted this horrible treated of people equally to stop, drive the Brits out & resume their place on the top of the pyramid.

Of course they lost the war. But their resentment rose. Leading to the gradual rise of afrikaaner nationalism. This is them wiggling back into the law and then the creation of the National Party which eventually introduced apartheid.

That's where the party begins! ]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:12:57 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162181.html#10162181 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Ask him it should be interesting...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162174.html#10162174 Author: loveandpeace1984
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 1:08pm

Ask him it should be interesting and they also have hottest and very talented actress named Charlize Theron.
]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:08:14 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162174.html#10162174 <![CDATA[Apartheid : sistagal wrote:White South...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162171.html#10162171 Author: JoliePoufiasse
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 1:06pm

Originally posted by sistagal sistagal wrote:

White South Africans will always have different views to apartheid. To them it meant peaceful haven, infrastructure and access to education and health care.

But some will be more than happy to explain them from the point of view of oppressed black South Africans. It was a time where every where was segregated & there were a lot of clashes between the races. There were loads of riots by school children because most black South Africans speak Zulu, Xhosa etc but had to learn in Africaans which is the boers language.

One thing that may also have affected white South Africans are those that had built families with black partners before apartheid. The races where broken into black, white, coloured and Asian. So interracial families where often split up with children being regarded as coloured & parents into black & white race. The children could also be split up if say one of the siblings was very fair they could be regarded as white or if they were dark they could be regarded as black.

I'm sure they'll empathise but all in all apartheid would have been pretty sweet for them lol. Now when it comes to blacks...

ETA: I'm black South African. Well half of it. I did not grow through apartheid but I read around the subject a lot & of course what I have learnt from my family and they what still occurs now
 
This is fascinating to me. And I never knew about the bolded! So there were people that "passed" as well? Also, I've always wondered about the mentality of the asians and the jews during that time. Since the races were so clearly stratified, with blacks at the bottom, did they have somewhat of a sense of "superiority" towards the blacks and "inferiority" with regards to the whites? How was all of this process on a psychological level? I know there were plenty of indians in the ANC and fighting against apartheid, but I've always wondered what the attitudes were socially. I visited south africa the year that Mandela was to be elected and I'll never forget the "white only" signs that were still on the beach in Capetown, even though blacks bathed there too. Like they didn't have the time to take them down...
]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:06:12 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162171.html#10162171 <![CDATA[Apartheid : White South Africans will always...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162148.html#10162148 Author: sistagal
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 12:53pm

White South Africans will always have different views to apartheid. To them it meant peaceful haven, infrastructure and access to education and health care.

But some will be more than happy to explain them from the point of view of oppressed black South Africans. It was a time where every where was segregated & there were a lot of clashes between the races. There were loads of riots by school children because most black South Africans speak Zulu, Xhosa etc but had to learn in Africaans which is the boers language.

One thing that may also have affected white South Africans are those that had built families with black partners before apartheid. The races where broken into black, white, coloured and Asian. So interracial families where often split up with children being regarded as coloured & parents into black & white race. The children could also be split up if say one of the siblings was very fair they could be regarded as white or if they were dark they could be regarded as black.

I'm sure they'll empathise but all in all apartheid would have been pretty sweet for them lol. Now when it comes to blacks...

ETA: I'm black South African. Well half of it. I did not grow through apartheid but I read around the subject a lot & of course what I have learnt from my family and they what still occurs now

Edited by sistagal - Feb 23 2013 at 12:54pm]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:53:10 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162148.html#10162148 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Personally, I&#039;d rather...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162134.html#10162134 Author: JoliePoufiasse
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 12:36pm

Personally, I'd rather here it from a black south african's perpective. Don't give a fucc what those BOERS felt about it.]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:36:39 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162134.html#10162134 <![CDATA[Apartheid : I too had a White South African...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162128.html#10162128 Author: Alias_Avi
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 12:29pm

I too had a White South African professor who lived through it as a child]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:29:03 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162128.html#10162128 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Def don&#039;t ask his ass his...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162113.html#10162113 Author: Derri
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 12:17pm

Def don't ask his ass his views]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:17:47 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162113.html#10162113 <![CDATA[Apartheid : Anyone Africans have any experiences...]]> http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162112.html#10162112 Author: sache1991
Subject: 355040
Posted: Feb 23 2013 at 12:15pm

Anyone Africans have any experiences with it....? I just want a personal experience on it...my professors is a white South African who lived through it, but I'm kind of shy about asking him his views. Confused]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:15:35 +0000 http://Forum.BlackHairMedia.com/apartheid_topic355040_post10162112.html#10162112