And once I master this I'll have to go back and to some more adding and subtracting of fractions to make sure I can remember the rules are different.

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Ok, thanks, I'm stickying these rules in my practice book next to these sections.

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In addition to what I said before:

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You know what, I see what I did wrong. I think I'm trying to carry over rules from adding and subtracting fractions to multiplying and dividing fractions. You know how when for example

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you're supposed to multiply each denominator by each other to get them over the same denominator. I was trying to do that with those recent problems. Wow, thanks, I never caught that.]]>

_ConcreteRose_ wrote:Okay, Well the first problem is this: what you do to one side you have to do to the other. If you multiply by positive 4 on one side, you have to multiply by positive 4 on the other. Or you could do negative 4 on both sides.Secondly, you did the same thing you did on the other problem. What happened to the 4s in the denominator? |

Okay, thanks, this is a good rule to remember.

And I crossed out the 4s because they were both over the same denominator.

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Okay, Well the first problem is this: what you do to one side you have to do to the other. If you multiply by positive 4 on one side, you have to multiply by positive 4 on the other. Or you could do negative 4 on both sides.

Secondly, you did the same thing you did on the other problem. What happened to the 4s in the denominators?

If you cross out the 4s in the denominator you have to do the same in the numerator.

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I figured since I multiplied both sides by the opposite denominator I could cross out the denominator and work with it that way. And the crazy thing is all the bait answers were similar (it is multiple choice) to my wrong answer, just with different signs.

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Sorry for the wait...writing in Paint takes so long!

But this is what I got when I did it like this. Can you tell me why this came out wrong?

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_ConcreteRose_ wrote:Well I know that multiplying by 4 get's rid of he denominator on BOTH sides. It's just easier to work with algebra when there are no fractions. However, since the denominator is -4 just remember that multiplying by four on the left gives you negative 1. So when you divide by negative one, the signs change. |

You know what, I just figured that out when you were typing. I multiplied the whole left side by 1-. I'll show you what I was doing then what I did if you can point out where I went wrong. I was looking at this problem for over an hour.

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Well you know that multiplying by 4 get's rid of the denominator on BOTH sides. It's just easier to work with algebra when there are no fractions.

However, since the denominator is -4 just remember that multiplying by four on the **left** gives you negative 1. So when you divide by negative one, the signs change.

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I feel so dumb right now. All this math is confusing me and making me forget stuff I thought I knew.

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How do you know to multiply by 4? Is there a general rule?

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So I assume the question says to solve for S?

I would sart by multiplying each side by 4

That would give you 3s+4t= -5s+7u

then add 5S to both sides:

3s(+5s) +4t = -5s(+5s) +7u

8s+4t=7u

move the 4t to the other side of th equal sine

8s=7u-4t

then divide by 8

s=(7u-4t)/8

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Concrete _Rose and others, I can show you how I did it if need be.]]>

I'm lost. Solve for s. I keep getting 7u-4t but the answer's supposed to be 7u-4t

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