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The standards in the OP are reasonable. I think those are basic, for like a community college. It certainly isn't overachieving. Just saying...
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 8:55am |
kind of low standards... but i understand what they're saying. it's fine though. a parent can't really force the true nature of their child (no matter how much they might want to) so if the child isn't mature enough for college by the time they get to college - in order to stay in their classes - you can't really change that.
theres no structure in that development, but you can work on their work ethic and their academic achievements.
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:00am |
Key 6 is kind of useless. You don't need to take an AP class to get into college. Most people don't, and even if you fail the AP exam, it won't keep you out of college. I'm pretty sure even top-tier schools won't reconsider an admitted applicant that failed the AP exam.
I took 3 AP classes, and only took 1 AP exam. I would almost recommend taking the AP course, and not taking the exam. Then once you see the material in college, it is familiar. I breezed though intro Chem and Bio, because the material was familiar and kind of easy due to my AP courses.
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:01am |
 Limalady wrote:
Key 6 is kind of useless. You don't need to take an AP class to get into college. Most people don't, and even if you fail the AP exam, it won't keep you out of college. I'm pretty sure even top-tier schools won't reconsider an admitted applicant that failed the AP exam.
I took 3 AP classes, and only took 1 AP exam. I would almost recommend taking the AP course, and not taking the exam. Then once you see the material in college, it is familiar. I breezed though intro Chem and Bio, because the material was familiar and kind of easy due to my AP courses. |
I don't think they are saying if you don't take it or fail that you won't get into college
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:02am |
you can take an AP course without taking the exam? i don't get it.
sounds like a plot from schools to boost kids GPAs.
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:03am |
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Nice suggestions but use it as a rough guide not a check list. I never took the ACT and SAT but I had a lot of other experiences that helped me. College is not the 13th grade.
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:03am |
SamoneLenior wrote:
Limalady wrote:
Key 6 is kind of useless. You don't need to take an AP class to get into college. Most people don't, and even if you fail the AP exam, it won't keep you out of college. I'm pretty sure even top-tier schools won't reconsider an admitted applicant that failed the AP exam.
I took 3 AP classes, and only took 1 AP exam. I would almost recommend taking the AP course, and not taking the exam. Then once you see the material in college, it is familiar. I breezed though intro Chem and Bio, because the material was familiar and kind of easy due to my AP courses. |
I don't think they are saying if you don't take it or fail that you won't get into college
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The implication of "3 on AP exam" on a College Readiness list, is that if you don't get a 3 on the AP exam you aren't prepared for college, and I just disagree.
Edited by Limalady - Nov 30 2012 at 9:07am
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:06am |
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you can take an AP course without taking the exam?i don't get it.
sounds like a plot from schools to boost kids GPAs. |
You absolutely can. The AP exam is optional. I did not take the Calculus AP exam or the Chemistry one. I did not need the stress, but having seen the material did make those course much easier in college. I think I would like key 6 more if it said, "Take AP course." Taking the courses do help prepare you for college, since it is college material.
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:08am |
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I completed IB English and Art and took both exams
I do agree your classroom experience is where you obviously learn the most, the test is there to measure what you have learned
but getting a higher score on an AP or IB test does show that you (possibly) retained more information from the given class and can test well on that subject
so, I would agree that those that get higher scores are probably more prepared (in that subject) than those that get lower scores ......doesn't mean they will automatically breeze through college though or that those that fail or don't even take the class will struggle in college
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Posted: Nov 30 2012 at 9:10am |
SamoneLenior wrote:
I completed IB English and Art and took both exams
I do agree your classroom experience is where you obviously learn the most, the test is there to measure what you have learned
but getting a higher score on an AP or IB test does show that you (possibly) retained more information from the given class and can test well on that subject
so, I would agree that those that get higher scores are probably more prepared (in that subject) than those that get lower scores ......doesn't mean they will automatically breeze through college though or that those that fail or don't even take the class will struggle in college
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That is true. If the list is to measure college preparedness, and not a list of how to prepare, then key 6 is not useless. ETA: The other goals say "Take this course, by this time. Get this grade." Key 6 just says, "Get this score." I just think that taking the course already is a measure of preparedness.
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