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    Posted: Apr 22 2011 at 6:56am

2 Thess 2:1

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

The Greek is very specific and strict as to the subject. Again, what is the subject? The coming of Jesus Christ and our gathering to Him. Not very difficult is it?

2 Thess 2:2

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Paul doesn't want you to be confused by some man's or evil spirit. Nor by word by a so-called teacher or even by letter from Paul concerning the return of Christ.

2 Thess 2:3

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

This is the beginning of a number of events that MUST take place first. A falling away or apostasy will occur. What is apostasy? Apostasy is a giving up of one's professed belief. For example worshipping a false messiah thinking he is the True One.

The son of perdition will be revealed upon the earth. Now, there is only one son of perdition, only one at this time is sentenced to perish in the lake of fire. That entity is none other than Satan himself.

2 Thess 2:4

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

He will exalt himself above Christ and God, even those who worship in another religion. He will sit in the temple of God claiming to be God. Where is this? It is in Jerusalem, God's most favorite place which he has made a covenant with in Ezekiel 16. This is the antichrist or better said the instead of Christ. For he will call himself Christ. Many who don't read God's Word but rather listen to men who say "Don't worry, just have faith your going to be gone anyway" are going to be deceived believing he is the True Christ.

2 Thess 2:5

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

I'm sure Paul went over this in detail with them before. Paul wrote this second letter to them because man and the first one confused them.

2 Thess 2:6-7

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Now many so-called "scholars" say this is the Holy Spirit. No it isn't. The verb here is transitive, which means you have to transfer it back to the subject being discussed. What is the subject? The son of perdition sitting in the seat of God as savior.

Where is Satan now? According to Revelation 12:7 he is in heaven. Not free though but held in chains. The archangel Michael will cast him out onto the earth and the angels will rejoice, but woe unto you on earth. This hasn't happened yet friends. Sure, his evil spirit has free reign on the earth but he's not here de facto, in person yet.

What is the iniquity that is already working? You already know if you understand the four hidden dynasties of religion, education, political, and the economy.

2 Thess 2:8

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Then is after the tribulation of antichrist. There are two tribulations; antichrist's and God's. Both will not harm God's children. The Lord shall consume him with his mouth. What is in His mouth? A sharp two-edged sword (Revelation 1:16). Antichrist will also be consumed at the True Christ's return.

2 Thess 2:9

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

He will be all-powerful and supernatural performing miracles in the sight of men bringing down lightning at the snap of his fingers (Rev. 13:13). People will believe he is Christ and this when the delivering up to death, who is the devil (Heb. 2:14), happens. Believing he is Christ people will deliver their loved ones up to be "Saved".

2 Thess 2:10

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

They loved not God's Word enough to study it. They are spiritually dead until they are tested again and at that point if they do not straighten up shall perish.

2 Thess 2:11

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Here is your reason for God sending strong delusion. YHVH shall do it because they deserve it. If they do not study to understand these things God will let them be deceived. It may also be that they could not stand against antichrist and have the knowledge without worshipping antichrist. That would be the unforgivable sin. After being repeatedly warned in the Bible again and again then they must learn the hard way.

Is this written anywhere else in God's Word? Yes, in the Book of Romans. Turn there and go to chapter 11.

Rom 11:1

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Paul was a Benjamite. He was a Roman by birth but a Benjamite by seed.

Rom 11:2-3

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 "Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life."

Jezebel was having the priests killed and sought Elijah's life also.

Rom 11:4

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

All through the years God has had a remnant. A remnant that would always be faithful. God has reserved 7,000 men, no gender intended there. Seven means spiritual completeness. There will be many more than that of God's election here when antichrist appears including the kings and queens of the ethnos or ethnic peoples. But whatever number it is that is the number, it is a perfect number.

Rom 11:5

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

There has always been a remnant that understands.

Rom 11:6

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

This is confusing not knowing the difference between election and free will. The elect were chosen before the foundation of this earth age (Eph. 1:4) at the time of the overthrow of Satan. God will intercede in their lives and those with free will He will not unless they ask. The elect are not perfect however and were not chosen because they are better than anyone else. But because they stood against Satan in the age before this one.

Rom 11:7-8

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded Israel couldn't cut it by the law and commandments of God. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

I say even unto this very day. When God has sent this slumber or stupor, upon one no matter how hard the Elect try to make them see they cannot see the truth. Why? They asked for it. As Paul said in 2 Cor. 11 they like to be deceived and swallow it hook, line, and sinker. Look at the people today. They don't know what to believe or even believe there is a God and with what is taught today, they haven't got a chance against antichrist. They will have that chance during the Millennium.

This is not just a New Testament teaching it is also spoken of in the Old Testament. Let's turn to the Book of Isaiah. Chapter 29 is one of the woe or warning chapters.

Isa 29:1

1 Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.

Ariel means lion of God. This word is in the Moabite stone line 12. It is an Egyptian name for Jerusalem. Year in and year out you sacrifice animals to Me.

Isa 29:2

2 Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.

This will happen in the same location that we spoke of earlier, in the temple of God.

Isa 29:3

3 And I will camp against thee round about, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raise forts against thee.

God will come against them with power because they worshipped antichrist and gave honor to him.

Isa 29:4

4 And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.

Who was it that was cursed to crawl in the dust all his days figuratively? Satan of course. When those who have been deceived and do for him will have a familiar or evil spirit and they shall be as low as the serpent in the dust.

Isa 29:5

5 Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff  that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.

They shall be as dust in the wind and in confusion. God will not be pleased at this point. He will come suddenly.

Isa 29:6

6 Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

Our God is a consuming fire (Heb. 12:12). This is the second tribulation which happens at the return of Jesus Christ.

Isa 29:7

7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.

When those who have been deceived open there eyes to what they've done, it will be as a nightmare to them at His coming.

Isa 29:8

8 It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

The people shall be filled in a false manner but shall be empty souls. They fight against the True Throne of Zion.

Isa 29:9

9 Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.

They are in a stupor. They would rather traditions taught in their churches and receive the milk. When Christ raised the twelve year old girl He didn't say give her milk, He said give her MEAT. As it is written in Amos 8, the famine is not for bread but for the words of the Lord. There are good churches and if your in one thank God for it.

Isa 29:10

10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

Who poured out this spirit of deep sleep? God did. It will come upon the biblically illiterate.

Isa 29:11

11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

To them it sealed and they don't understand it. How many of you have been told the Book of Revelation isn't supposed to be understood, "It is sealed, just have faith"? Faith in what? To be raptured out? The very word "revelation" means to reveal or make known.

Isa 29:12

12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Again it is the deep sleep that no matter what they can't see the truth of God's Word.

Isa 29:13

13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

The heart is removed form God's Wisdom. Instead they are taught the precepts and traditions of men and church systems. Where they say it's always been done this way. Does your tradition line up with the Word of God?

Isa 29:14

14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a marvelous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

You won't be deceived for you understand.

Isa 29:15

15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

This is another warning. This politics in dark rooms and politicians that lie and use trickery to fool the people. Many of them today promote socialism and communism which this country and others have fought against. Be aware friends. Christ said to fish out of the right side of the boat.

Isa 29:16

16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Nothing is hidden from The Potter. They say, "There is no God" or if there is "He didn't know what He was doing".

Isa 29:17

17 Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?

Lebanon means white mountain. They were supposed to remain pure. But the desolation or Delator shall overcome the fruitful fields.

Isa 29:18

18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

This is the Lord's Day and on that day the truth will be realized.

Isa 29:19

19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

Jesus Christ is returning.

Isa 29:20-21

20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: 21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

Judgment occurs at the gate. They would rather be in confusion than listen to one who speaks the truth.

Isa 29:22-23

22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale. 23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel.

All shall sanctify God's Name, YHVH not the antichrist's.

Isa 29:24

24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

Those who learned not the truth or heard it shall. When? On the first day of the Millennium when every knee shall bow to Jesus Christ.

God will allow them that want to be ignorant, to be ignorant if they so choose.

In conclusion we're going the last chapter of Isaiah and read the first four verses. Turn to Isaiah 66.

Isa 66:1

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Here God asks, "Are you going to be build Me a house?" He is putting you in place. God doesn't need a house for heaven is His throne and the earth His footstool. Is that not humbling?

Isa 66:2

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Anything you use to build a house for God He has made. He will bless the humble and those who revere Him and the Word.

Isa 66:3

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

God mentions a few abominations that they might as well commit. He doesn't want their sacrifices. They have gone their own way with church. So "religious and Godly" and yet it is so false they shall worship antichrist. Do things God's way and you will be blessed.

Isa 66:4

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

Choosing their own false teachings that God shall bring a paralyzing fear upon them. Can you now understand why Christ would say to those who come to Him saying, "We've cast out demons and done wonderful works in Thy Name" and Christ will say, "I never knew you!"? Because they have worshipped the wrong savior, antichrist and were doing his works.

Now we understand that God does and will send the delusion and slumber. For they are not taught and do not want to learn God's Word. Tradition and religious things will get you into trouble and away from His Word.

Do not receive the mark of deception in your mind, but be sealed or marked with God's Truth and gain knowledge. Some already have the mark of the beast in their minds and are in a deep sleep and don't even know it. Study God's Word and don't be deceived by the false messiah when he appears on this earth ready to "rapture" you out.

 

Written by Phil Najera


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Thank God for this word. It goes along with what I was saying. God said there will be a great deception, greater than any other. I believe it is being set up right now. This is huge.
 
The thing is only those who want to believe and have a heart for God will be able to know the truth and to them He will recieve them into His kingdom. People need to wake up right now! Even in the church.
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