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CNN says Obama is resuming his vacation on the Vineyard and as of right now has no plans of going to StL, but not to rule it out as possibility.

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A message to the people of Ferguson (written by Eric Holder)

Since the Aug. 9 shooting death of Michael Brown, the nation and the world have witnessed the unrest that has gripped Ferguson, Mo. At the core of these demonstrations is a demand for answers about the circumstances of this young man’s death and a broader concern about the state of our criminal justice system.

At a time when so much may seem uncertain, the people of Ferguson can have confidence that the Justice Department intends to learn — in a fair and thorough manner — exactly what happened.

Today, I will be in Ferguson to be briefed on the federal civil rights investigation that I have closely monitored since I launched it more than one week ago. I will meet personally with community leaders, FBI investigators and federal prosecutors from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office to receive detailed briefings on the status of this case.

The full resources of the Department of Justice have been committed to the investigation into Michael Brown’s death. This inquiry will take time to complete, but we have already taken significant steps. Approximately 40 FBI agents and some of the Civil Rights Division’s most experienced prosecutors have been deployed to lead this process, with the assistance of the United States Attorney in St. Louis. Hundreds of people have already been interviewed in connection with this matter. On Monday, at my direction, a team of federal medical examiners conducted an independent autopsy.

We understand the need for an independent investigation, and we hope that the independence and thoroughness of our investigation will bring some measure of calm to the tensions in Ferguson. In order to begin the healing process, however, we must first see an end to the acts of violence in the streets of Ferguson. Although these acts have been committed by a very small minority — and, in many cases, by individuals from outside Ferguson — they seriously undermine, rather than advance, the cause of justice. And they interrupt the deeper conversation that the legitimate demonstrators are trying to advance.

The Justice Department will defend the right of protesters to peacefully demonstrate and for the media to cover a story that must be told. But violence cannot be condoned. I urge the citizens of Ferguson who have been peacefully exercising their First Amendment rights to join with law enforcement in condemning the actions of looters, vandals and others seeking to inflame tensions and sow discord.

Law enforcement has a role to play in reducing tensions, as well. As the brother of a retired law enforcement officer, I know firsthand that our men and women in uniform perform their duties in the face of tremendous threats and significant personal risk. They put their lives on the line every day, and they often have to make split-second decisions.

At the same time, good law enforcement requires forging bonds of trust between the police and the public. This trust is all-important, but it is also fragile. It requires that force be used in appropriate ways. Enforcement priorities and arrest patterns must not lead to disparate treatment under the law, even if such treatment is unintended. And police forces should reflect the diversity of the communities they serve.

Over the years, we have made significant progress in ensuring that this is the case. But progress is not an endpoint; it is a measure of effort and of commitment. Constructive dialogue should continue — but it must also be converted into concrete action. And it is painfully clear, in cities and circumstances across our great nation, that more progress, more dialogue, and more action is needed.

This is my pledge to the people of Ferguson: Our investigation into this matter will be full, it will be fair, and it will be independent. And beyond the investigation itself, we will work with the police, civil rights leaders, and members of the public to ensure that this tragedy can give rise to new understanding — and robust action — aimed at bridging persistent gaps between law enforcement officials and the communities we serve. Long after the events of Aug. 9 have receded from the headlines, the Justice Department will continue to stand with this community.

As we move forward together, I ask for the public’s cooperation and patience. And I urge anyone with information related to the shooting to contact the FBI by dialing 800-CALL-FBI, option 4.


Eric H. Holder Jr. is attorney general of the United States.

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I'm waiting until he arrives and starts answering questions but I actually feel like Eric is serious business on this issue.  Of course the right wing is already furious about him focusing on this and we are mad that he hasn't done enough. 

He needs to tread lightly but he better be bringing a big ass stick.  This police department if fabricating evidence and I hope they get caught red-handed.   I hope the FBI has already been secretly recording their asses. 
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Originally posted by Qualified Qualified wrote:

CNN says Obama is resuming his vacation on the Vineyard and as of right now has no plans of going to StL, but not to rule it out as possibility.



Qualified what are your thoughts?  Do you think he should?  I'm kind of torn on whether that will be good or bad.  Kind of yes, kind of noDisapprove

ETA:  actually what do all of you guys think?  been thinking about it since his last speech. 


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I think Eric will finally do the right thing , but Trayvon martin family deserves a decision on his murder . We never heard anything from Eric . Thanks for the info KfOXX . I leave and return to keep my BP down .
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I knew the Trayvon Martin case would be harder because the bastard murdered that child in the dark quiet evening with no real witnesses.

Mike was killed in broad daylight in front of MANY witnesses.  If Eric can't win this case he should go on ahead and retire....


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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:


Originally posted by Qualified Qualified wrote:

CNN says Obama is resuming his vacation on the Vineyard and as of right now has no plans of going to StL, but not to rule it out as possibility.



Qualified what are your thoughts?  Do you think he should?  I'm kind of torn on whether that will be good or bad.  Kind of yes, kind of noDisapprove

ETA:  actually what do all of you guys think?  been thinking about it since his last speech. 




So, I am still sorting through my thoughts honestly K. Do I necessarily feel as if he needs to go to St. L right now? No, would I appreciate him being more assertive on the issue, ABSOLUTELY! What I am having a problem with accepting is his desire to continue vacationing with all thats going on right here on our home front.

My second issue is the 2 times he's spoken on the issue, he lumps it together with the issues in Iraq. I truly feel, that restoration of order in St. Louis is tantamount to the issues in Iraq.

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