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Not defensive, just contrary. I see the same problem but I see it on a larger scale. That's just the way my brain works.
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no one ever suggested that because it was contained it is ok.  what i said was that most people don't give a f*ck because the majority of that 40 is gang on gang crime....you know the type that bhm tries their best not to be around and wouldn't want to help any old way..

 
ain't nobody walking around ducking bullets...foh.


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So sad
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I'm sure I'm in the minority, (based upon the reactions in the revamping the Public Assistance programs to include drug testing and limiting the types of foods that can be bought like WIC does, etc.), that sees a direct correlation between a system that encourages failure and lack of self suffiency , which produces young "men" that shoot up parks at 2:20 in the afternoon.
 
I bet that IF he's caught:
 
His mother has several children, with no fathers in the picture and has been on Public Assistance as a lifestyle and was in her teens when she had the 1st.
 
While some of y'all saying "mind your bidness/worry about how the gubment wasting money/stop thinking you better than folks/y'all ain't really Black, etc", remember that the gubment ain't murdering innocent girls with a likely bright future in parks in the middle of the day.
 
Go to any prison and see who's in there. There WILL be similarities among the majority, esp the Black inmates.
 
I know that not everyone on Public Assistance abuses it and a lot aren't "Welfare/Food Stamp/Section 8 Queens. I know plenty of ppl that grew up in the system and in the hood that are way more successful than me and broke the cycle.
 
But, the ones that ARE are producing the majority of the type of human beings,(animals), that are committing these crimes and it  ain't shyt you can tell me that will change my mind.
 
So when some of y'all jump all over posters like me that have a diff opinion than the majority when it comes to those Public Assistance threads and call us Republicans/coons/ and not really being Black,etc please know that there is a thought process behind it.
 
I don't have a solution, but I can see what the end results are. Threads and news stories like this.
 
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Generational teen pregnancy ----> generational public assistance dependency----> this generation of "lost" youth----> generational teen pregnancy---> cycle repeats.
 
So what can be done to break that cycle other than make one of those things far less appealing?
 
This teen pregnancy thing didn't become "no big deal" /common place until the 90's.
Your azz would've gotten thrown out the house -eta- or that mofo would've had to marry and provide for you and that baby, so you gave more thought to the repercussions. (reminds me of some threads on BHM on what would u do if your teen daughter got pregnant)
 
Many young teens don't panic when they get pregnant nowadays, why?
 
a.Because oft times their mothers (and grandmothers),did the same thing. She's not going to punish her, she's going to throw her a shower and brag about it.
 
b. They will get funding to support the baby. If they have another one, they will get even more.
 
So generation after generation of 14-17 yr olds raising kids, with the mindset, decision making of raising kids being done by KIDS, what do you think the end result would be?
 
Put a bunch of 14-17 yr old boys and girls on an island, come back 50 years later, how do you think the kids there are going to carry themselves? How their decision making skills are?
 
That's what we are seeing now..And the Public Assistance system encourages/perpetuates this.
 
"They" knew what they were doing when it was created. Us killing each other, "they" don't have to bother.
 
"Assistance" my azz.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Naturalchick30 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan 31 2013 at 10:27am
Originally posted by Random Thoughts Random Thoughts wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

i'm not sure how this thread about chicago. my family lives in those neighborhoods. i was just there last month. i live on the east coast now and chicago is absolutely NO different than Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC I know that for a fact. This is happening everywhere, so yall in this thread asking why won't THEY do something in chicago, what exactly is going on in your city? Ermm
Yall are a mess, it is easy to preach on the internet. 

in 2012 the murder rate in DC was at a 50 year low w/82 murders. divide that by 12 that is almost 7 murders a month...which while not insignifcant does not compare to Chicago statistics. DC is of course smaller than Chicago but you didnt mention size as a factor in your list....i am not sure where you're coming from. Nobody is "out" to get ChicagoConfused

but your response is an example of what i was speaking off--of some chicago residents on the board who insist there is no problem--when statistics suggest otherwise. notice i didn't say news stories--but just the numbers.

What I am saying is that size matters. Just like you know not to walk through SE in the middle of the night but might feel perfectly safe in Adam's Morgan, multiply that by a city 10 times the size and you have chicago. It's the same. 


I can see that. In 2011, the highest murder rate per capita was Philly with 20.7 per 100. Chicago was 2nd with 15.7.

Wonder what it was for 2012.
I think we were around 21.4 for 2012.  I may be slightly off.
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omg so sad... No justice no peace for the inner city streets. Something has to give. These politicians don't care, cops don't care something has to give. These kids are suppose to be the future!
This makes me so upset. I wish I could make an impact in Chicago :-(
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Don't hurt em Cream. 
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Originally posted by Spokenword Spokenword wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

i also think the declining murder rate in DC has more to do with the change in demographics. I mean, the top cops can take credit for that if they want, but sending poor people out to montgomery and PG county en mass sure isn't hurting either.

yep, you are right about this.


They've done this in Atlanta. Pushed all the people from the projects to South Fulton and Clayton county.
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Cream, although I share a different opinion,  I’m like you, people never agree with me in these types of threads! I think the problem specifically in Chicago have to do with segregation and concentration of poverty, but other cities may have different problems for their crime issues. There is never going to be a one size fits all approach because every city has a different history and different outside influences at work. 

there are actually MANY people looking into reducing crime in Chicago specifically. there was one expert on NPR the other day talking about it. He had a lot of good info on what has been done so far and what they've learned from the failures. I am apprehensive that the new idea they have is going to work, but time will tell. 

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