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    Posted: Mar 17 2013 at 12:09pm
say what nah?! Shocked you check your bank statement on Tuesday morning and find that 10% of it has been taken by your govt for bailout. ATMs ran out of money yesterday and they've stopped online money transfers:

ATMs drained as bailout tax triggers run on bank deposits


People gather at an ATM in Cyprus

Panic: people queued to withdraw money after it was determined that part of the Greek bailout would come from the bank accounts of savers. Photo: Reuters

In a move that could set off new fears of contagion across the eurozone, anxious depositors drained cash from ATMs in Cyprus on Saturday, hours after European officials in Brussels required that part of a new €10 billion ($12.6 billion) bailout must be paid for directly from the bank accounts of savers.

The move - a first in the three-year-old European financial crisis - raised questions over whether bank runs could be set off elsewhere.

Jeroen Dijsselbloem, president of the group of euro-area ministers, on Saturday declined to rule out taxes on depositors in countries beyond Cyprus, although he said such a measure was not currently being considered. Although banks placed withdrawal limits of €400 on ATMs, most of them had run out of cash by early evening. People around the country reacted with disbelief and anger.

People withdraw money from a cash-point machine in the Cypriot capital Nicosia.

Lining up: People withdraw money from a cash-point machine in the Cypriot capital Nicosia. Photo: AFP

''This is a clear-cut robbery,'' said Andreas Moyseos, a former electrician who is a pensioner in Nicosia, the capital. Iliana Andreadakis, a book critic, added: ''This issue doesn't only affect the people's deposits, but also the prospect of the Cyprus economy. The EU has diminished its credibility.''

In Nicosia, about 150 demonstrators massed in front of the presidential palace late in the afternoon after calls went out on social media to protest the decision, which came with almost no warning at the beginning of a three-day religious holiday.

Under an emergency deal reached early on Saturday in Brussels, a one-time tax of 9.9 per cent is to be levied on Cypriot bank deposits of more than €100,000 effective on Tuesday, hitting wealthy depositors - mostly Russians who have put vast sums into Cyprus's banks in recent years. But even deposits under that amount would be taxed at 6.75 per cent, meaning that Cyprus's creditors will be confiscating money directly from pensioners, workers and regular depositors to pay off the bailout tab.

Cyprus's newly elected President Nicos Anastasiades said taxing depositors would allow Cyprus to avoid implementing harsher austerity measures, including pension cuts and tax increases, of the type that has wreaked havoc in neighbouring Greece. That thinking appealed to some Cypriots, including Stala Georgoudi, 56. ''A one-time thing would be better than worse measures,'' she said.

But Sharon Bowles, a British member of the European parliament who is the head of the body's economic and monetary affairs committee, said the accord amounted to a ''grabbing of ordinary depositors' money'' billed as a tax.

The surprise policy by the International Monetary Fund, the European Central Bank and the European Commission is the first to take money from ordinary savers.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/atms-drained-as-bailout-tax-triggers-run-on-bank-deposits-20130317-2g8rx.html#ixzz2NolBde7b



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Wow... the US would def try this ish...
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I think they would love to have it here in the US. At least the 1% would love it. They would rationalize it. It's still robbery. That's just Angry
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The US could do it and nobody would do sh*t.  just sayin'.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AwesomeAries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 17 2013 at 12:16pm
welp I would have a couple thousand dollars under my mattress
because I would be damned if they get my money
most politicians are millionaires
take ten percent from they asses 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote yurika975 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 17 2013 at 12:17pm
Of course newdiva! There are way more average savers. I don't like the thought of raiding people's accounts. 
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Excerpts from the Guardian:

Meanwhile Cyprus's parliament has postponed an emergency session due to take place on Sunday to discuss the levy on bank savings. All meetings have been put off until Monday, according to the Cyprus News Agency.

Earlier the Cypriot president, Nicos Anastasiades, had delayed an informal meeting of politicians after growing unrest following the news of the one-off levy.

Cyprus is the fifth country to have asked for aid from the eurozone, but this is the first time a deal has called for savers to sacrifice some of their cash holdings, in what is seen as a dangerous precedent.

The agreement also called for a 2.5 percentage point increase in corporation tax, a bank restructuring and exchanging bank bonds for less valuable equity.

Sharon Bowles, chair of the European parliament's economic and monetary affairs committee, said she was appalled by the Cyprus bailout. "This grabbing of ordinary depositors' money is billed as a tax, so as to try and circumvent the EU's deposit guarantee laws," she said. "It robs smaller investors of the protection they were promised. If this were a bank, they would be in court for mis-selling."

The bailout, agreed by eurozone ministers and the International Monetary Fund, was needed to prevent Cypus defaulting on its debts. The island ran into trouble after its banks were hit by a restructuring of Greece's sovereign debt.

The Cypriot finance minister, Michael Sarris, said after 10 hours of talks which ended with the agreement: "I wish I was not the minister to do this. Much more money could have been lost in a bankruptcy of the banking system or indeed of the country."

But the news led to frenzied attempts by Cypriots to withdraw money from their bank accounts on Saturday.

People rushed to banks and queued at cash machines that refused to release cash as resentment quickly set in. The levy on savers, half of whom are thought to be non-resident Russians, will raise almost €6bn. The move in the eurozone's third smallest economy could have repercussions for overstretched bigger economies such as Spain and Italy.

People with less than €100,000 in their accounts will have to pay a one-off tax of 6.75%, Eurozone officials said, while those with greater sums will lose 9.9%.

The prospect of savings being so savagely docked sparked terror among the island's resident British community. At the Anglican church's weekly Saturday thrift shop gathering in Nicosia, Cyprus's capital, expats expressed alarm, with many saying that they had also rushed to ATMs to withdraw money from their accounts.

"There's a run on banks. A lot of us are really panicking. The big fear is that there soon won't be cash in ATMs," said Arlene Skillett, who lives in Nicosia. "People are worried that they're automatically going to lose 10% [of their savings] in deposit accounts. Anastasiades won elections saying he wouldn't allow this to happen."

She said a lot of elderly Britons had transferred savings to the island when they decided to retire there. "Nobody can understand how they can do this – isn't it illegal? How can they just dock money from your account?" she asked.

In the coastal town of Larnaca, Cypriots described how they had queued from the early hours in the hope of withdrawing deposits from banks.

"A lot of us just can't believe it," said Alexandra Christofi, a divorcee in her 40s who said she had rushed to her bank before doors opened at 6am.

"I had put my money there for a rainy day. It's absolutely all I have and I cannot understand how Cyprus is being singled out. Other EU countries got bailouts and we're only in this position because we supported Greece," she said, referring to the massive losses the Cypriot banking system suffered as a result of Greece's restructuring its debt last year. "Where is the fairness in that? Where is the solidarity and support that is meant to be the reason why we are all unified in this common currency in the first place?"

Maria Zembyla, from Nicosia, said the levy would make a "big dent" in her family's savings and erode investors' confidence. "It is robbery. People like us have been working for years, saving to pay for our children's studies and pensions and suddenly they steal a big share of this money. Russians that currently keep the economy afloat will leave the country along with their money," she added.

Howard Skelton, in Limassol, said: "The only people who will benefit in the long term are the banks. It will be many years before the man in the street begins to feel any benefit from this bailout. The sooner I can return to the UK the better."

The levy does not take effect until Tuesday, following a public holiday, but action was being taken to control electronic money transfers over the weekend. Co-operative banks, the only ones open in Cyprus on a Saturday, closed following a run on the credit societies while ATMs cancelled transactions owing to "technical issues".

Depositors started queuing early to withdraw their cash, and protesters gathered outside the presidential palace. "I'm extremely angry. I worked years and years to get it together and now I am losing it on the say-so of the Dutch and the Germans," said British-Cypriot Andy Georgiou, 54, who returned to Cyprus in mid-2012 with his savings.

"They call Sicily the island of the mafia. It's not Sicily, it's Cyprus. This is theft, pure and simple," said a pensioner.

The IMF managing director, Christine Lagarde, who attended the meeting, said she backed the deal and would ask her board in Washington to contribute to the bailout. Sleepy

"We believe the proposal is sustainable for the Cyprus economy," she said. "The IMF is considering proposing a contribution to the financing of the package. The exact amount is not yet specified."


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Indeed Yurika.   The government could really do this right now ....they already have your information.
 
Folks would protest and what not but bottom line. Your money would get took and eventually the protests would fade like Occupy.
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Tho I will say the US has already snatched from us if we want to look at the bailouts awarded after the collapse.
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Man, I would go psycho postal on somebody's ass. You mean to tell me that for all of the things that I deprived myself of to build a little nest egg, I'd have nothing so show for it??? Hell naw
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